Non Calibrated I found on my set after you see calibrated were over staurated with colour and itts a flat image it doesnt have depth or the image doesnt have any pop. A lot of the pictures you see people post look flat, its only what your used to seeing.
I dont think that small kink will have any noticeable effect, not enough to worry I know what your like - I was just pointing it out - all the cals I have seen at 2.4 have had slightly lower contrast from about 70 upwardswith a bit of a dip. I really struggled to get the 10 - 30% on the linem when I tried 2.4 - I know now I should have been using the 2.6 gamma setting -- cheers for that
Thats how my cals came out on my kuro until I lowered the contrast to get the best balance. You can run higher contrast on this set and still manipulate the gamma which is grand.
What I did find when I manipulated the 10% to be on the line I got a lot of green dither noise in the blacks - that was no good and I wonder if thats why you have your 10% at 2.35?
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Every VT65 calibration report I've seen involves big adjustments to gamma at the low end.
I honestly can't remember why we decided to leave gamma that way, though we spent a lot of time looking at dither noise up close. That was in the dark, so must have been during the night calibration. (There were no glasses in the way, so it can't have been during the 3D calibration.)
There are no gamma deviations worth noting at all with the day calibration. (0.02 is the biggest inaccuracy at any point.) Again, the out of the box readings look like a hill, tracking at 2.05 at 10 percent. (That's with gamma technically set to 2.4, to achieve 2.2, if that makes sense. )
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It don't sound too bad, does make an interesting noise though!
I won't lie, the fan noise is a mild distraction on occasion, but I think the issue has been overplayed.
Would I be happier if there was no fan noise? Of course. But the buzzing was more distracting on all three GT50s I owned and my VT65 hardly buzzes at all. (With a completely white screen displayed I can hear a very slight buzz with the volume low, but that's it.)
Yep, it didn't look much of an issue from the clip either. Cheers.
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In the unlikely event that there remains someone who wants to see the VT65, particularly the 65" size, this afternoon I walked into my local John Lewis. Despite what I had been told about four weeks ago, and more than once, the screen size they had on display was not the 50" that they had earlier said, but this size, the 65"! The price is £3,499.Apparently John Lewis are out of stock of the 65" size, and the only shops that will have it on display in the whole of the UK are Edinburgh, Solihull and Southampton. The 65" size will be back in stock at John Lewis at the end of June, I was told when they checked their stock orders. Oh, since this has been mentioned more than once, I was able to go round the back to listen for the fans, but it was a fairly noisy shop and I couldn't hear much - in a quiet domestic setting the 65VT65's fans may be more audible. I did notice how warm my ear was getting that close to the back panel, though!
It was displayed immediately next to a Samsung £2,899 UE60F7000 LED set.As expected, though the VT65 looked bright enough on its own terms, it didn't look as bright as the Samsung LED. But then, I won't be watching any future screen of mine under harsh fluorescent shop lighting.
The pictures on both screens left some room for improvement, not as good as I'm used to seeing on even my much-maligned LG 60PZ950T in the kitchen, but I'm sure that that was due to the rather questionable split multi-feed of BBC1 HD's Pointless that most of the sets in John Lewis were showing. At home, with a single feed, I would expect the quality to be significantly better.
I don't know how this works, but the 65VT65 in John Lewis looked more imposing than my Samsung PS64D8000 in my parlour does, which is only an inch smaller. The 65VT65 is a big set! Further, being right next to the Samsung 60" UE60F7000 in John Lewis really brought home the size difference in the "65VT65 or 60ZT65" debate.The Samsung LED is quite a size itself, but you can immediately see that the 65VT65 is bigger again. Certainly the current consensus on several forums seems to be that the picture of the 60ZT65 is ultimately marginally the best that there is, but the 65VT65 gives you a picture that is very, very nearly as good, with 17.4% more screen area, at a cost of £300 or £400 less.
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I still have banding on the right side of my 55VT50 that i seem to notice more now, have they sorted this out on the VT65, if so i might need to have a chat with Richer Sounds about a exchange.
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With a £500 price difference I think the scales do tip in favour of the VT. I brought my ZT for £3,499 though, which does make it a more finely balanced equation
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You did well to get your ZT for that price, which I've not seen since. Agreed, if the ZT were still £3,499 (which is close to what the 65VT65 is now typically listed at) rather than its current £3,799 or £3,899 then it would become quite a delicate judgment in choosing between the two sets.
It was from marks electrical, they had it advertised at that price for about two weeks and then pulled it and re advertised for £3,999 (think they saw what other sites were charging and tealised they'd underpriced it), but I'd already paid a deposit so they honoured the price - bit lucky on that front as I haven't seen then for that price since on any other sites either.
The ZT is £3400 here:
Cheap site, VT's only £3179 on there
Indeed, gel's site seems to be cheap, though I'm not sure how much they would charge for delivery of the set. A six-year guarantee though ....
And Mr Malarky, I'm sure that you will have noticed a pleased customer, Mr Allen's comments on this new site, about your 60ZT60 "Took delivery of a Panasonic 60zt60 yesterday and I am gobsmacked at the quality of the picture, I have in the past owned pioneer kuro, and Panasonic 55vt50 but they were no where near as good as this beast. I would like to thank all your staff for the good quality no nonsense service they gave me. Cant fault your staff, thanks a lot yours M W Allen"
That makes at least two very happy owners of the 60ZT60!
The VT65 has 10 per cent off here:
So it is 10 per cent off that price!
Yep, did see that, I'm officially no longer a lone nutter!
Fame at last, Mr Malarky - I've just mentioned you by name on the ZT65 thread!
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