Out of interest, what does the Marantz give you that less expensive BDPs don't? Are we talking about DVD upscaling here, analogue audio performance, something else, or a combination of advantages?
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Strapped Mate -It has no analogue outs, I havent tried any dvd's.
Its a simple as it puts out an amazing Blu Ray Performance - image which is crisp and consistent with miminal image / movements issues.
There are some movement issues within the content for sure.
Other blu Ray Players I have seen / owned dont maintain the image and blur. Some might turn on 24fps smoother to compensate - that is a mistake as it ruins the film look and looks too much like real life I know that may seem odd. Other Players I have seenb and owned seem to skip frames by comparison
The sound is perfect - I have the player feeding PCM not bitstream but I would still hazard a guess that feeding an amp Bistream it would still sound better than most other players.
Read the WHF Review, they are ban gon the money - if you believe that all players are created equal then thats furry muff, I know that is the general consensus however I have owned 6 different players and none have been the same even 3 all from Pioneer.
Definately a calibrated screen is needed to see the full benefit - but with one I have found it quite clear to see.
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I ask because I'm contemplating replacing my budget Panny BDP with something more upmarket.
I went from a Denon 2500BT to the Panny 120 and couldn't see (or hear) any difference in terms of HD performance. The Denon edged it in terms of DVD upscaling, but I don't watch many DVDs and the difference was so small (on a 50" screen at least) that it didn't seem worth splitting hairs.
I'd like a more robust player (rather than a flimsy, plastic, budget model), but since my BDP is hidden away inside my AV cabinet, I want something more than a design statement. Analogue performance is irrelevant to me, as I use a dedicated CDP for music.
You may be right about differences being noticeable on a calibrated screen (Jules is calibrating mine on Wednesday); problem is, the overwhelming majority of retailers run TVs using out of the box settings, so an audition isn't going to tell me much in that regard.
I might have a chat with Richer Sounds about an outgoing Cambridge Audio BDP (the Marantz is more than I can afford), on the basis that I could return if I don't get on with it.
Have a word with Frank Harvey - I spoke them about a home demo of the 7007 before I bought it and they said it was possible - buy it they send you a demo unit - you send it back and get refunded. I would say it defs worth trying it before you buy anything else
I just bought it blind on the spur of the moment. I do feel hurt that someone else is going to calibrate your set not me.... :( but I am glad for you that your getting it done.
Its like most things picture and sound benefits are lost if conditions are not perfect - sound is the worst for this where as picture can be perfect in any room
Are you talking about canary Jules(av forums)strapped?
I contacted him last year about calibrating my tv,he advised that as i was looking at getting the oppo to get that first as all imputs need to be calibrated seperatley.
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Yes; and I wouldn't disagree with that logic, either.
In principle, that would mean sprinting down to RS before Wednesday, or sticking with what I've got.
If your seriously considering another bdp it might well be worth buying one now,be great to read what your thoughts are in relationtion to if calibration of the bdp makes a difference.
That is great service from Frank Harvey! That is definitely what I what do too.
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To be honest, I can't see why it would make any difference, but if I bought a new BDP after calibration I'd be sat wondering.
Maybe worth phoning Jules?!
I do feel hurt that someone else is going to calibrate your set not me....
Don't feel hurt mate! Your offer was more than generous. If things had worked out differently I'd have been tremendously grateful.
I'm also intrigued to see how calibration improves 3D viewing (despite there being virtually no 3D content worth watching). I don't see how 3D calibration is possible with a contact meter, since the calibrator will need to take readings through the glasses.
I'd imagine RS would do the same with outgoing Cambridge Audio BDPs, based on my experiences with my local branch. It'd be better than having old stock sitting gathering dust.
If money was no object, I'd buy the best of everything (such as the Marantz), but I'm afraid I have to compromise somewhere.
I will; but I should probably stop discussing BDPs on a dedicated TV thread. (Apologies for derailing.)
Are you getting 3D cal'd as well .... jelous
Althoug apparently it might be possible with a contact metre in a pitch black room - not sure though
Yeah, I'm really interested to see the results.
I'd imagine the difference is bigger than with 2D calibration, because 3D images out of the box are usually wider of the mark.
Obviously you'd need to attach the glasses to the meter in some way; and you'd need to be careful that the glasses don't scratch the AR coating. Even then I'm not sure how things would work out. Have you considered trying?
FWIW, I've had a chance to compare the TPS glasses with the latest Panny ones a bit more. I prefer the Panny glasses in certain regards. They dim images more, but blacks look a bit washed out using the TPS glasses, even if you roughly calibrate (using AVS patterns with 2D-3D engaged on the TV).
Then again, the TPS glasses are rechargeable, more comfortable, and block more ambient light. I'll need to decide which glasses I'm keeping before Wednesday, too, as this will make considerably more difference than switching BDP. I should probably chat to Jules about this as well...
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