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Samsung HU8500 Curved Ultra HD 4K LED TV Review now online

Has been rated quite well, some issues with backlighting (as expected):

http://www.avforums.com/review/samsung-hu8500-ue65hu8500-curved-ultra-hd-4k-led-tv-review.10154#sectionAnchor32491

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RE: Samsung HU8500 Curved Ultra HD 4K LED TV Review now online

Honestly, I don't get why they aren't cramming away, trying to make OLED better. The first gen OLEDs have been the best looking sets for image quality since the last gen Pioneer's IMO. Seems a shame that Samsung, a "market leader" seem to be ignoring it as a technology.

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I think Samsung has good reasons to not release OLEDs this year:

1) Pushing 4K technology and ensuring that it becomes successful means that the sets should be affordable to the masses. If you ride 4K on OLED, there's a high risk of both failing as it will be very expensive.

2) Current OLED panel yield is very poor. Besides, blue OLEDs have a limited lifespan which needs overcoming. Releasing OLEDs with half baked technology is a sure fire disaster.

3) Once 4K becomes more widely prevalent, Samsung will introduce better quality and cheaper OLEDs.

Samsung hasn't ignored OLED at all; it's simply waiting for the right time. Research is on full swing to develop it further.

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I'm still not entirely convinced with these curved screens I would have to actually sit down and watch a film I know and like in a darkened room before I say yah or nah to these tvs .a 10minute demo wouldn't do it for me plus I believe you said it was going in the corner which has alarm bells ringing for me when it comes to viewing angles?

I am also at a loss why many manufacturers are not pushing the OLED 4k ....BUT at the same time a 65inch cuved 4k OLED would come with an eye watering price tag at the moment.

is there no chance of a motorised drop down projector elsewhere in the new house for movie night and keeping the kuro just for TV.it's still head and shoulders above 99% of the TVs out there just now for picture quality.

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RE: Samsung HU8500 Curved Ultra HD 4K LED TV Review now online

On the contrary, a corner set-up is likely to encompass the entire room within a narrow viewing angle. 

Still thinking of placement, but have decided on a dedicated projector based home cinema in the double garage in 2015 or 2016. 

The Kuro will go in the garage which is being converted into a gym. It's not practical to watch a projector while running on the treadmill!

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RE: Samsung HU8500 Curved Ultra HD 4K LED TV Review now online

BB your destiny is calling you:

 

http://panastore-north.co.uk/plasma/627-txp60zt65b.html

 

Smile   Go on you know you want it!   Wink

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gel wrote:

Smile   Go on you know you want it!   Wink

No I don't. Smile

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bigboss wrote:

gel wrote:

Smile   Go on you know you want it!   Wink

No I don't. Smile

I thiink I'll give you three faults for a refusal!

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RE: Samsung HU8500 Curved Ultra HD 4K LED TV Review now online

I've never got the curved screen thing for TVs. Firstly, the whole of the screen of a TV is in focus. Secondly, it narrows the viewing angle, and thirdly, unless you're sitting close enough to be at the focal point of the curve, you'll get no benefit whatsoever!

A projector screen on the other hand...

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You know your stuff BB I'm sure whatever you settle on will look and sound great ......hell of a deal with the ZT tho throw in a cheeky wee calibration and your good to go!

Don't tell us that deal hasn't threw a spanner in the works  Smile greatest 1080p TV ever made at £1700 less than the samsung! 

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theflyingwasp wrote:

You know your stuff BB I'm sure whatever you settle on will look and sound great ......hell of a deal with the ZT tho throw in a cheeky wee calibration and your good to go!

Don't tell us that deal hasn't threw a spanner in the works  Smile greatest 1080p TV ever made at £1700 less than the samsung! 

Well, the Samsung is 4K, so not a fair comparison. Smile

The problem with that TV is its manufacturer. After hearing all the horror stories, I'm staying away from Panasonic. Besides, I'll buy my TV from John Lewis only, for better customer support.

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RE: Samsung HU8500 Curved Ultra HD 4K LED TV Review now online

Another review:

http://www.trustedreviews.com/samsung-ue65hu8500_TV_review

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RE: Samsung HU8500 Curved Ultra HD 4K LED TV Review now online

AV Forums' review doesn't make much sense to me.

A TV that reaches down to just 0.09 cd/m2 (MLL) is described as delivering "great blacks," yet last year's Sony and Samsung high end LED models managed 0.05 cd/m2. In other words, the HU8500's black level (ANSI) isn't even impressive by LED standards.

As always, the proof is in the watching rather than the numbers, but it's hard to imagine the TV producing images that don't look at least a little washed out.

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AV Forums' review doesn't make much sense to me.

A TV that reaches down to just 0.09 cd/m2 (MLL) is described as delivering "great blacks," yet last year's Sony and Samsung high end LED models managed 0.05 cd/m2. In other words, the HU8500's black level (ANSI) isn't even impressive by LED standards.

As always, the proof is in the watching rather than the numbers, but it's hard to imagine the TV producing images that don't look at least a little washed out.

Check their very next sentence:

"The Samsung includes their Smart LED local dimming feature and unsurprisingly when activated the measured black levels reduced to 0.01cd/m2 in the low and standard settings and 0cd/m2 in the high setting."

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David@FrankHarvey wrote:

I've never got the curved screen thing for TVs. Firstly, the whole of the screen of a TV is in focus. Secondly, it narrows the viewing angle, and thirdly, unless you're sitting close enough to be at the focal point of the curve, you'll get no benefit whatsoever!

Sorry David, I'm certainly with you in spirit on this one, I think that curved TVs are for people with NO FRIENDS, because the sweet spot is apparently not wide enough to accommodate even two people! However, in the context of the rest of what you say, is there a word or words missing from your second sentence, which I've put in bold? :?

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RE: Samsung HU8500 Curved Ultra HD 4K LED TV Review now online

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strapped for cash wrote:

AV Forums' review doesn't make much sense to me.

A TV that reaches down to just 0.09 cd/m2 (MLL) is described as delivering "great blacks," yet last year's Sony and Samsung high end LED models managed 0.05 cd/m2. In other words, the HU8500's black level (ANSI) isn't even impressive by LED standards.

As always, the proof is in the watching rather than the numbers, but it's hard to imagine the TV producing images that don't look at least a little washed out.

Check their very next sentence:

"The Samsung includes their Smart LED local dimming feature and unsurprisingly when activated the measured black levels reduced to 0.01cd/m2 in the low and standard settings and 0cd/m2 in the high setting."

Yes, but to my knowledge, the TV uses "edge lit local dimming" rather than full array local dimming. It's not at all clear whether the 0.01 cd/m2 figure has any bearing on what happens when the TV is displaying content.

The 0 cd/m2 figure certainly doesn't, since no LED TV (even the best full array local dimming models) can do this. The only televisions to date to manage a genuine 0 cd/m2 reading are OLED models.

The ANSI figure is the one to look at. If the TV could produce 0.01 cd/m2 (or an absolute black reading of 0 cd/m2) when lit pixels are displayed, these figures should be reflected in the ANSI graphic.

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