Come on strapped, now don't be a spoilsport! Let Alan remain proud of the TV he owns.
He should be, it's one of the very best TVs out there and genuinely fantastic value for money. I'm just not sure it's the undisputed heavyweight champ.
It beats 2012 Panasonic plasmas in certain areas of performance, but not in others, making it a points decision at best. (I've already stretched the boxing metaphor too far.)
Hardware: Panasonic TX-P50VT65B (calibrated); Cambridge Audio Azur 651BD; Yamaha RX-A810; Teac PD-H600; PS3; B&W 601 & 600LCR (series 3); Q Acoustics QAV (rear)
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My Samsung TV is pretty good and I have none of the problems mentioned..... so far, hope it stays as good as it is just now :)
Sometimes I do get a tad carried away so to speak and I'm sure a lot of Panasonics may well be better.
I recon at times that there's a fine art to typing exactly what you are really trying to put across and in all honesty I was really meaning what I said in a quite jovial way though still liking my TV big time. To be honest I'd love to have the ready cash to buy one of the new Samsung TV's that will soon be for sale. I think that my wife would maybe kill me if I did though ... sigh
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Tannoy Arena 5.1 with stands.(http://www.techradar.com/reviews/audio-visual/hi-fi-and-audio/hi-fi-and-av-speakers/tannoy-arena-96472/review)
Bedroom: Panasonic PX70 TV and a Sony BDP-370 Blu ray Player & Kitsound Boomdock. (quite superb for sound)
So far :)
No worries Alan.
You're definitely not the first person to get carried away on here, especially in the early hours of the morning! (I'm no less guilty in this regard.)
I just wanted to redress the balance, as your Panasonic-Samsung comparison sounded like you were pitting a Ford Capri against a Bugatti Veyron.
Edit: Actually, think I read that backwards. So Erm, Sup, how is everyone?
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No worries Paul.
You're definitely not the first person on here to read something backwards...
Quick hijack if that's alright, This TV the Samsung PS51E6500 that I am loving to own... it has two USB slots with different values.... can someone please explain why they are different... as in are they meant for different things to connect to them ?
I'm not too sure whether a full brochure was not sent as I never got much in the way of paperwork in the BIG box so I don't know why they are different ?
A nice review of my TV here: http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/samsung-ps60e6500-ps51e6500-201207262022.htm?page=Performance
They should both be the same voltage, but the higher current one is for using external hard disks without power supplys. If you plug in a HD, you can record and pause live TV from the freeview tuner and set timed recordings from the guide mode. It needs to be quite a speedy drive to work, which is why it won't work with USB sticks.
Thanks for the info Paul. :)
I ordered an external HD Drive the other night there and it does have its own power supply ... so would it then matter as to which USB slot I used ?
HDTV Test's view was that the 6500 was probably the best Samsung TV last year, rivalling Panasonic's plasmas, rather than bettering them. The 6500 outperformed ST/GT/VT50 plasmas in certain areas, but not others.
I've no issue with anyone arguing that the 6500 was a worthy rival for 2012 Panasonic plasmas. Stating that it was outright winner is another matter entirely.
You've got an excellent TV, Alan. I hope you continue to enjoy it!
User reports and pics are starting to come in:
It's worth reading the last two pages about the loss of brightness from high and low angles, which only seems a problem when viewing up close. I'm not reading anything that's putting me off yet.
Love some news of a UK release date.
That was comon on the 2012 PDP 8 series as well, it has an anti reflective filter which has that side effect. I belive the VT series AR coating has the same symptoms?
Right, same deal with 2012 Panasonic plasmas (from ST through to VT). For me it's a non-issue, since I don't watch TV standing up from three feet away.
Now I need to know if John Lewis will stock the F8500, when, and at what price? I think I'll call tomorrow, as my third GT50 is no better than the previous two.
I think I am beginning to share your enthusiasm for this Samsung, Strapped.
While I like my VT50, I don't love it, I don't seem to feel the same way about it as I did my Pioneer 436XDE. I guess it's probably a match for the Pioneer, but not any better, which I kind of think it should be, not least because it has a native 1080p panel rather than a 720p. Goes to show just how good those old Pioneers were I guess.
If this Samsung is a good as its being trailed, I think I will be inclined to cut my losses and go for one. Looks like the 2012 models are being discounted now to clear stocks before the 2013 panels become available, but once they are discontinued I think the second hand market for the 2012 models should be reasonably strong. I hope.
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Worth doing ?
It's strange that there isn't a greater buzz about this TV here. There's a lot of excitement on AV Forums and AVS Forums. People here are comparing the F8500 with prior Samsung plasma TVs, which were already excellent, but the F8500 looks like something else again.
Of course I'm speculating about this TV's overall quality. However, according to the marketing, Samsung strove to make a reference plasma TV and the F8500 is the result of that effort. I'm trying to rein-in the hyperbole, but I've read enough to feel that my enthusiasm isn't misplaced.
Every reviewer granted an extended audition at CES places the F8500 in the same bracket as the ZT65. If reviewers are having this conversation, perhaps we should be talking in similar terms.
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