That's all perfectly reasonable and makes complete sense, I was just curious what had swung your thinking that's all.
I certainly understand that feeling of just wanting a TV you enjoy watching but at the same time you are starting to pour cold water over the anticipation of the F8500 now sounds like you have the ideal solution in being able to meet up with a pro-calibrator...if only we all had that option and were able to make such an informed choice. The only problem I can forsee is if the quality varies as much as it has the last few years and that few tvs are of equal quality but then if you can compare two tvs out of the box then that would be brilliant.
It's very refreshing that you are keeping such an open mind (I really struggled to do so) and that can only pay dividends in the end, after all, what you want is the best tv you can get at your price point but those extra tv inches are a draw even in my eyes...there is nothing more rewarding that a bit of extra tv real estate
As you say it's going to be the auditioning that probably makes your mind up and I bet that day can't come soon enough now.
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What is the likely price of the 55st60 v the likely price of the 51" Samsung?
Current online prices are:
55ST60 -- £1,499
51F8500 -- £1,899
Hopefully these will drop a bit as more retailers list them for sale.
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you are starting to pour cold water over the anticipation of the F8500 now
those extra tv inches are a draw even in my eyes...there is nothing more rewarding that a bit of extra tv real estate
I don't want to dampen anyone's enthusiasm! It's still entirely possible that I'll end up with a 51" F8500. However, I can get a 55ST60 and a professional calibration for the same money.
As you say, it's a question of seeing different TVs in action and trying to be circumspect.
Quick update on my situation.
John Lewis agreed to let me hang on to the GT50 until this year's TVs are in stock. Once the new models are available, I have the option of a refund or replacement. That takes some pressure off. I now know I can buy whichever TV I want once I'm better informed.
I can't overstate how impressed I am with John Lewis' customer service. I really hope JL stock the F8500 and ST60; as per Gel's observation, there's no confirmation at present which TVs will be available.
Well that is very very good service from John Lewis. Above and beyond the call of duty.
You must be well pleased Strapped.
I think I know where I shall go for my next TV.
I haven't got a bad word to say about John Lewis. In fact, I don't think I've experienced better customer service.
The more I'm finding out, the more I'm leaning toward a 55ST60 and professional calibration.* That statement kind of runs counter to the thread title.
*subject to audition to check extensively for problems
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That's fantastic customer service from JL and must put your mind at ease, at least now you can take your time and make sure the next tv is exactly the one you want. The more I hear about JL the more impressed I get and I too will definately consider them the next time I buy a tv, if you hadn't bought from them in the first place I dread to think what your situation would be now.
Again, amazing customer service, don't think I've heard of better. The only worry is whether they stock both TVs. If they don't, comparisons are more difficult and your business may end up elsewhere. If they do, it's ideal. I would read with interest your comparison and almost certainly do the same myself.
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I opened an email from Samsung this morning listing John Lewis among retailers that will stock the F8500. Hope so. That would make life a bit easier. Life would be easier still if they stock the ST60, too....
Did they stock the st50?
Just the GT50 & VT50. I'm hoping John Lewis will stock the ST60, as the ST50 was Panasonic's best selling 2012 plasma (I think).
Have to admit to looking forward to some reviews of the F8500, and if it's as good as they are claiming, I may well make a purchase.
Also, I may have found a solution to the Japanese wife/Korean tv problem, an expensive solution, but it might work.
I sell the 32" Samsung that's currently in the bedroom, and buy the F8500 and use it in the lounge. The GT50 goes in to the bedroom, but becomes the main tv if we have visitors from Japan. The wife might well go for it, I'll be happy, and any visitors from Japan will be none the wiser.
Anyone willing to pay me about £1800 for my 32" Samsung?
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Sounds like quite a rigmarole, BBB!
I'm on the fence with regard to the F8500. I want to see it in action, alongside a 55ST60 (which reportedly doesn't suffer from the vertical band issue, though I'll need absolute proof before parting with any money).
By the way, if you want the F8500, you'll need to sell your 32" Samsung for £1,900; at least that's the only UK online price I've found to date.
I meant to ask, how's the DSE/vertical banding on your GT50 now? Any change, for better or worse? Has IR become less of a problem? Thankfully I've been OK on the IR front, at least so far.
What is the source for saying the st60 does not suffer from vertical banding please?
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