joelemans, watch some sprt through the internal freeview decoder to rule out problems with the Virgin box or connectors.
@jimjams, Setanta is the worst bitrate/quality channel I have ever clapped eyes on. It was unwatchable on my old 25" crt, and it's no different on the plasma. I wouldn't worry about it, you aren't going mad.
I'm only guessing here but are you guys linking your plasmas up using HDMI to a Sky HD box or similar? These flatscreens that boast HD and True HD ready are exactly that. They have been designed to be used with HDMI. I used to have a 28 inch Panasonic 100hz CRT and changed for a Sony 40 inch LCD. The picture with sport is great, sport in HD is fantastic. I've heard lots of times that Plasma is better than LCD and I can only comment on my brother-in-law's five year old Pioneer plasma vs my LCD. Mine wins hands down. Now, I'm not saying that the newer Plasmas won't beat mine but anyone telling me that CRT beats a flatscreen on Sky HD using a decent HDMI cable, well they are wrong.
I have to say I have a 42" Panny and I have no problems at all, but then again I don't have Setanta or Sky, I have to watch CL on ITV1 or FA Cup/England on BBC.
The solution of course is to go to the boozer to watch it.
Have you contacted Panasonic as this sounds like a problem with the set.
System: Unison Research Unico CDE with upgraded DAC, Leema Tucana 2, Kudos Cardea C2, AIAIAI TMA-1 Studio Young Guru, Beyerdynamic MMX102iE.
I have a panny TH-37PX70, i have Sky SD, footy and action movies are comfortable to watch, none - very little blurriness, not to the extent that you mention, i agree with the above post, sounds like your set, if it's still under warranty contact the retailer or Panny themsleves
user="Gerrardasnails" wrote:I'm only guessing here but are you guys linking your plasmas up using HDMI to a Sky HD box or similar? These flatscreens that boast HD and True HD ready are exactly that. They have been designed to be used with HDMI. I used to have a 28 inch Panasonic 100hz CRT and changed for a Sony 40 inch LCD. The picture with sport is great, sport in HD is fantastic. I've heard lots of times that Plasma is better than LCD and I can only comment on my brother-in-law's five year old Pioneer plasma vs my LCD. Mine wins hands down. Now, I'm not saying that the newer Plasmas won't beat mine but anyone telling me that CRT beats a flatscreen on Sky HD using a decent HDMI cable, well they are wrong.
I fail to see why I as a customer should be made to to pay extra for SKY HD to get a picture quality that I used to get with SD on a CRT Telly. The very fact that Sony is selling CRT sets in the far East leads me to think we are being taken for mugs here in the UK.
Look, I have nothing against anyone who wants to pay extra for a big screen and have HD. What I think is wrong is that for for SD on Sky, (which I already pay £456 per year) for, and £800 pounds for a new TV gives me a worse picture (on fast moving action) that what i get on CRT.
By the way, I am not the only won who thinks this. My brother in law regrets hs purchase of a LCD TV, and he now tends to watch Tv on an old Panasonic CRT. All I am saying is the manfacturers should give us choice.
All I was saying is that these new screens (plasma/LCD) started off with component connectivity (only Sky HD gives you that), then 1 hdmi, then 2 hdmi and now most of the top of the range give you 3 hdmi inputs. This is because they are high definition screens. You do not get high definition with scart/svideo/composite etc.,
I see it as quite obvious that if a product has been manufacured to work primarily with a connection such as hdmi, you will then need to match it to a similar source. The new upscaling dvd players are meant to be connected via hdmi - CRT's can't be used for that. The whole point of plasma or LCD is connecting them to hdmi ready DVD players, hdmi gaming formats like Xbox and PS3 and hdmi driven receiver boxes like Sky HD and V+.
By the way, as a customer you were not made to buy a Plasma.
My plasma telly is split new, less than a week old.
It is connected via an HDMI cable to a Virgin V+ box, I do not have the HD service.
I have tried watching footy using the inbuilt tuner and it is very poor.
What improvement can be made by upgrading the HDMI cable ? Has any one done this and seen noticable improvements ?
"The other option is to buy a PVR / DVD-R HDD etc. recorder that has an HDMI port and a decent upscaler in it. It won't solve the problem completely, but should give you a better picture.
*Edit - Or as Clare's post about the Onkyo TX-SR875 has just reminded me - this will upscale anything you put through it, so if you re getting a decent surround amp with this feature, you can try upscaling your TV source through this."
Could someone explain this upscaling thing a bit further to me
Joeleman. So are you watching tv through your V+ box? If so, you should be getting a decent picture. My brother in law has the same tv as me (Sony LCD) and has it linked up to V+ and the SD picture is very good.
The Onkyo will upscale better than your screen will. So if you have your TV connected to a receiver like the above mentioned and then your V+ box connected to your receiver it will take the information from the V+ box, do it's thing and then reproduce it on to the screen.
I have a similar problem with a 42pz70. Everything looks fine apart from SD football. Some games channels are better than others. Is there a setting I could change to improve this? Maybe get rid of noise?
user="Gerrardasnails" wrote:By the way, as a customer you were not made to buy a Plasma.
Agreed as a customer you are not "made" to buy, but if you need a new tv you now have 2 choices plasma or lcd neither are that good esp at sd and you are forced to choose one, its interesting to note that crt tv's are still available and going srong in Japan etc I wonder why !!
As Kitkat points out, I have 3 choices
3 No telly.
All 3 options fail to live up to CRT on moving action. I would say that is backwards technology. If as you say it is the signal and you need HD, then HD should be available to all free. The manufacturers should continue CRT TV'S untill the signal is good enough.
In fairness, I've never read anywhere an article shouting the virtues of flat screen motion handling. HD or SD it's not going to happen until, perhaps, OLED. I've got a Pioneer 428xd and that does not come close to CRT for fast motion handling. I douubt that even the best LCD's would fair any better. Those that tell you otherwise have been watching flat screens for a long while and forgotten what CRT was capable of.
Is a projector an option?