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Can anyone post some pics of the IR problems they're experiencing?

I'm interested to see how severe the issue is. HDTV Test did an IR comparison, pitting 2012 Panasonic plasmas against 2012 Samsung plasmas. The Samsung sets performed better in this regard.

I've had what I would describe as very minor IR on both GT50s I've owned, induced by gaming. I wouldn't describe any of these incidences as alarming and on the occasions IR did occur, it cleared up very quickly.

I'm not suggesting for a second that you're both exaggerating the issue. It sounds like Sky logos induce this problem more often and more severely than Freeview/Freesat channel logos. I guess I've also been lucky, in this sense at least.

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Rather sad really that the TV almost dictates which channels you can or cannot watch.

Exactly...that can't be right for anyone affected by the issue and must be considered faulty imo.

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Can anyone post some pics of the IR problems they're experiencing?

I'm interested to see how severe the issue is. HDTV Test did an IR comparison, pitting 2012 Panasonic plasmas against 2012 Samsung plasmas. The Samsung sets performed better in this regard.

I've had what I would describe as very minor IR on both GT50s I've owned, induced by gaming. I wouldn't describe any of these incidences as alarming and on the occasions IR did occur, it cleared up very quickly.

I'm not suggesting for a second that you're both exaggerating the issue. It sounds like Sky logos induce this problem more often and more severely than Freeview/Freesat channel logos. I guess I've also been lucky, in this sense at least.

I found that bright logos or game HUDs against a dark background caused all manner of issues, playing Fifa for example was a real issue as the EA logo caused serious amounts of IR. Any Sky channel was another culprit as the logos tend to be bright on dark backgrounds and when watching the footie the score cards you get in the top corners of the screen were another major cause of IR...I could go on and on with examples but basically bright logos on a dark background gave me awful IR issues.

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It is hard to find a channel now that doesn't  have some kind of logo |(

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I don't game on this tv, I wouldn't dare. I used to use the Kuro to play Wii golf, and never had a hint of a problem, even if I played for hours.

If the op is correct about getting IR after just 5 minutes of use, there's something seriously wrong with the GT

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It is hard to find a channel now that doesn't  have some kind of logo |(

I know, it's anti-plasma.

Some are ok, but some are just taking the mickey.

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Oldboy]</p> <p>[quote=laserman16 wrote:

Rather sad really that the TV almost dictates which channels you can or cannot watch.

Exactly...that can't be right for anyone affected by the issue and must be considered faulty imo.

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I was seriously considering getting a GT50 but after doing some online research on various sites including this one I have shelved the idea.

I really cannot be asked to go through 2 or 3 sets in the hope of getting one that performs as it should, it should not be to much to ask surely that the set performs correctly.

I'm afraid if I had bought one that was faulty the retailer would have had one chance to put it right.

I don't really want to be the QC department for a TV manufacturer.

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BIGBERNARDBRESSLAW wrote:

I don't game on this tv, I wouldn't dare. I used to use the Kuro to play Wii golf, and never had a hint of a problem, even if I played for hours.

If the op is correct about getting IR after just 5 minutes of use, there's something seriously wrong with the GT

Is the GT series simply not fit for purpose then if you can't or wouldn't dare use it for gaming? The tv has a game mode and there is no warnings in any of the documentation that says you shouldn't use it for gaming just a very vague warning about not having static images on the screen for a long time.

I agree, my GT30 had IR after just 5-10mins use...that surely isn't right and must be pointing towards some sort of inherent fault? It's strange that not all users are affected though as many have never reported any IR, as far as I know gel for eample has had no issues with his GT50 :?

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as far as I know gel for eample has had no issues with his GT50 :?

He doesn't play games on it.

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BIGBERNARDBRESSLAW wrote:

I don't game on this tv, I wouldn't dare. I used to use the Kuro to play Wii golf, and never had a hint of a problem, even if I played for hours.

If the op is correct about getting IR after just 5 minutes of use, there's something seriously wrong with the GT

Is the GT series simply not fit for purpose then if you can't or wouldn't dare use it for gaming? The tv has a game mode and there is no warnings in any of the documentation that says you shouldn't use it for gaming just a very vague warning about not having static images on the screen for a long time.

I agree, my GT30 had IR after just 5-10mins use...that surely isn't right and must be pointing towards some sort of inherent fault? It's strange that not all users are affected though as many have never reported any IR, as far as I know gel for eample has had no issues with his GT50 :?

 

I am on my third!   Smile  First one buzzing, and line down the screen only visible on football, second was buzzing really loud, third is pretty perfect, just got to be extra careful with image retention from what I have seen with all three.  

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laserman16]</p> <p>[quote=Oldboy wrote:

laserman16 wrote:

Rather sad really that the TV almost dictates which channels you can or cannot watch.

Exactly...that can't be right for anyone affected by the issue and must be considered faulty imo.

[/quote

I was seriously considering getting a GT50 but after doing some online research on various sites including this one I have shelved the idea.

I really cannot be asked to go through 2 or 3 sets in the hope of getting one that performs as it should, it should not be to much to ask surely that the set performs correctly.

I'm afraid if I had bought one that was faulty the retailer would have had one chance to put it right.

I don't really want to be the QC department for a TV manufacturer.

All of which were the exact reasons why i never went from my 3rd faulty GT30 to a GT50, after that experience of in effect being a member of the Panasonic QC dept I was concerned the same would be true if I got a GT50 and it would seem as though I done the right thing as I have had just 1 Sony 46HX853 and it's still going strong with no sign of any issues which is how it should be with every tv really.

It shouldn't be forgotten that a GT50 tv is a premium tv and as such issues such as these simply shouldn't exist on a product like this, if you have paid £400 for a budget supermarket tv then you could perhaps understand it a little but at this level it's unacceptable imo.

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Oldboy wrote:

as far as I know gel for eample has had no issues with his GT50 :?

He doesn't play games on it.

That was my point.

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It shouldn't be forgotten that a GT50 tv is a premium tv and as such issues such as these simply shouldn't exist on a product like this, if you have paid £400 for a budget supermarket tv then you could perhaps understand it a little but at this level it's unacceptable imo.

Exactly.

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Oldboy wrote:

BIGBERNARDBRESSLAW wrote:

I don't game on this tv, I wouldn't dare. I used to use the Kuro to play Wii golf, and never had a hint of a problem, even if I played for hours.

If the op is correct about getting IR after just 5 minutes of use, there's something seriously wrong with the GT

Is the GT series simply not fit for purpose then if you can't or wouldn't dare use it for gaming? The tv has a game mode and there is no warnings in any of the documentation that says you shouldn't use it for gaming just a very vague warning about not having static images on the screen for a long time.

I agree, my GT30 had IR after just 5-10mins use...that surely isn't right and must be pointing towards some sort of inherent fault? It's strange that not all users are affected though as many have never reported any IR, as far as I know gel for eample has had no issues with his GT50 :?

 

I am on my third!   Smile  First one buzzing, and line down the screen only visible on football, second was buzzing really loud, third is pretty perfect, just got to be extra careful with image retention from what I have seen with all three.  

I was aware of that but none of your issues have been IR related have they gel? Yes it's common sense to be careful when running the tv in but to get serious IR issues when you are 6 months into the life of the tv isn't acceptable, I went through the same with my GT30...that was 3rd time lucky as my 1st had a grey shadow line down one side of the screen and the 2nd had loud buzzing then my 3rd got the IR and cloudy screen issue after 6 months use. Does sound very familiar to what is being reported on this thread.

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It's worth noting that the Game preset is very bright out of the box (there's actually little difference between this preset and Dynamic in terms of contrast/brightness).

I'm guessing you've all calibrated the Game preset anyway. I don't even use the Game mode with the PS3, as I find the images too garish. I haven't had any concerns with input lag using other picture presets. 

Sorry if I'm stating the glaringly obvious...

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