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The sound by the way is my home cinema system, you can hear it really good on the Drive one.

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I just found the Iron Maiden one on YouTube by doing a search - that's cool!  I am going to have to do some more of them.   Smile

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKL3xfvXvk8

 

Think I have found it - cheers BB.

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How did you manage to shoot such a dark scene without any camera shake? Did you use a tripod?

 

Cheers BB

 

No I just held the camera but did not move.   Laughing  I wanted it to be good.  When I do a general search on YouTube I still can't find them.  Does it take a while for them to appear?

 

Cheers again for the help.

Yes, I think YouTube reindexes its contents periodically, so yours should come up on search after the next one.

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bigboss wrote:

gel wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKL3xfvXvk8

 

Think I have found it - cheers BB.

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How did you manage to shoot such a dark scene without any camera shake? Did you use a tripod?

 

Cheers BB

 

No I just held the camera but did not move.   Laughing  I wanted it to be good.  When I do a general search on YouTube I still can't find them.  Does it take a while for them to appear?

 

Cheers again for the help.

Yes, I think YouTube reindexes its contents periodically, so yours should come up on search after the next one.

 

Yep, just done a search under Panasonic 50gt50, and both are there now.

 

Cheers again.

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It might just be the pics or just me but it looks like you are crushing your blacks currently - maybe plu ray player setting are you using video mode pioneer or professional on blu ray?

Or maybe brightness needs to go up a bit 

If you crush blacks you lose black / shadow detail 

Just trying to help you get the best from your tv

 

Hi

 

Cheers for the tips, I will have a look into it, it also might be just my picture taking skills.  Smile

 

Cheers

 

The reason I say it, my Kuro lx5090 needed black on +1 for about 18months and then onto 0 after that - on 0 out of the box the blacks were too black and I was crushing shadow detail. Easy mistake when tv is new and you want the blackest blacks you can get.

I have had your blu ray player - the pioneer video setting has brightness +1 I think as default which works well if our have the brightness down, I preferred professional setting which is brightness on 0, the image is deeper more cinema like but doesn't move as clean  as the pioneer setting.

 

Kuro owners before you spend money on. New tv look at getting your set calibrated - once running with a good amount of pop contrast 36-38 depending on your eyes and where you get strain. More contrast = more 3d image you most likely won't want to sell it. I doubt a new set will be better enough or if it all. A calibrated tv is like having a new tv I can't stress it enough

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Kuro owners before you spend money on. New tv look at getting your set calibrated - once running with a good amount of pop contrast 36-38 depending on your eyes and where you get strain. More contrast = more 3d image you most likely won't want to sell it. I doubt a new set will be better enough or if it all. A calibrated tv is like having a new tv I can't stress it enough

I've not heard of any Kuro owner on this forum upgrading their TV because they're not happy with the picture. The commonest reason is 3D.

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Kuro owners before you spend money on. New tv look at getting your set calibrated - once running with a good amount of pop contrast 36-38 depending on your eyes and where you get strain. More contrast = more 3d image you most likely won't want to sell it. I doubt a new set will be better enough or if it all. A calibrated tv is like having a new tv I can't stress it enough

I've not heard of any Kuro owner on this forum upgrading their TV because they're not happy with the picture. The commonest reason is 3D.

 

That I understand and would be the only reason I can think of to sell a Kuro 9th gen, however the same applies to all really - I promise all tv owners if you get your screen calibrated or better yet learn to do it yourself there is a fool proof guide on the net then you will see a new set - the difference is not small - even with the Latest kuros that have ok gray scale out of the box the difference is large.

I have with near 0 skill got a grey scale that's extremely good with an rgb gamma curve that's near flat 2.2, near perfect luminance with a contrast of 36 and colour +3 - it was easy as making about 5 white balance adjustments - the colour balance you leave alone making things easy, all done via the normal menus

BB with your KRP range you have even more adjustments to get a near perfect grayscale - the grayscale is everything in tv picture reproduction !! 

 

If you calibrate your Kuro maybe 3d won't seem so interesting, if it does then you will have learnt to calibrate your new screen and your old screen will be worth more calibrated.

 

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Just done another video and included my setup more:

 

I will do it tomorrow, not working at present.

 

Cheers

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bigboss wrote:

ellisdj wrote:

Kuro owners before you spend money on. New tv look at getting your set calibrated - once running with a good amount of pop contrast 36-38 depending on your eyes and where you get strain. More contrast = more 3d image you most likely won't want to sell it. I doubt a new set will be better enough or if it all. A calibrated tv is like having a new tv I can't stress it enough

I've not heard of any Kuro owner on this forum upgrading their TV because they're not happy with the picture. The commonest reason is 3D.

 

That I understand and would be the only reason I can think of to sell a Kuro 9th gen, however the same applies to all really - I promise all tv owners if you get your screen calibrated or better yet learn to do it yourself there is a fool proof guide on the net then you will see a new set - the difference is not small - even with the Latest kuros that have ok gray scale out of the box the difference is large.

I have with near 0 skill got a grey scale that's extremely good with an rgb gamma curve that's near flat 2.2, near perfect luminance with a contrast of 36 and colour +3 - it was easy as making about 5 white balance adjustments - the colour balance you leave alone making things easy, all done via the normal menus

BB with your KRP range you have even more adjustments to get a near perfect grayscale - the grayscale is everything in tv picture reproduction !! 

 

If you calibrate your Kuro maybe 3d won't seem so interesting, if it does then you will have learnt to calibrate your new screen and your old screen will be worth more calibrated.

 

3D hasn't interested me yet.  Wink I intend to keep my Kuro for a couple more years at least. Once the 5 year warranty runs out, I'll see what's on the market then.

I usually tweak my settings a bit every 6 months or so, just to make sure I'm getting the best out of my Kuro.

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bigboss wrote:

ellisdj wrote:

bigboss wrote:

ellisdj wrote:

Kuro owners before you spend money on. New tv look at getting your set calibrated - once running with a good amount of pop contrast 36-38 depending on your eyes and where you get strain. More contrast = more 3d image you most likely won't want to sell it. I doubt a new set will be better enough or if it all. A calibrated tv is like having a new tv I can't stress it enough

I've not heard of any Kuro owner on this forum upgrading their TV because they're not happy with the picture. The commonest reason is 3D.

 

That I understand and would be the only reason I can think of to sell a Kuro 9th gen, however the same applies to all really - I promise all tv owners if you get your screen calibrated or better yet learn to do it yourself there is a fool proof guide on the net then you will see a new set - the difference is not small - even with the Latest kuros that have ok gray scale out of the box the difference is large.

I have with near 0 skill got a grey scale that's extremely good with an rgb gamma curve that's near flat 2.2, near perfect luminance with a contrast of 36 and colour +3 - it was easy as making about 5 white balance adjustments - the colour balance you leave alone making things easy, all done via the normal menus

BB with your KRP range you have even more adjustments to get a near perfect grayscale - the grayscale is everything in tv picture reproduction !! 

 

If you calibrate your Kuro maybe 3d won't seem so interesting, if it does then you will have learnt to calibrate your new screen and your old screen will be worth more calibrated.

 

3D hasn't interested me yet.  Wink I intend to keep my Kuro for a couple more years at least. Once the 5 year warranty runs out, I'll see what's on the market then.

I usually tweak my settings a bit every 6 months or so, just to make sure I'm getting the best out of my Kuro.

 

What happens if Panasonic plasma business went to the wall, would you buy one then BB?  Just to say for example they decided to stop manufacturing this or next year, would you buy one then?

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bigboss wrote:

ellisdj wrote:

bigboss wrote:

ellisdj wrote:

Kuro owners before you spend money on. New tv look at getting your set calibrated - once running with a good amount of pop contrast 36-38 depending on your eyes and where you get strain. More contrast = more 3d image you most likely won't want to sell it. I doubt a new set will be better enough or if it all. A calibrated tv is like having a new tv I can't stress it enough

I've not heard of any Kuro owner on this forum upgrading their TV because they're not happy with the picture. The commonest reason is 3D.

 

That I understand and would be the only reason I can think of to sell a Kuro 9th gen, however the same applies to all really - I promise all tv owners if you get your screen calibrated or better yet learn to do it yourself there is a fool proof guide on the net then you will see a new set - the difference is not small - even with the Latest kuros that have ok gray scale out of the box the difference is large.

I have with near 0 skill got a grey scale that's extremely good with an rgb gamma curve that's near flat 2.2, near perfect luminance with a contrast of 36 and colour +3 - it was easy as making about 5 white balance adjustments - the colour balance you leave alone making things easy, all done via the normal menus

BB with your KRP range you have even more adjustments to get a near perfect grayscale - the grayscale is everything in tv picture reproduction !! 

 

If you calibrate your Kuro maybe 3d won't seem so interesting, if it does then you will have learnt to calibrate your new screen and your old screen will be worth more calibrated.

 

3D hasn't interested me yet.  Wink I intend to keep my Kuro for a couple more years at least. Once the 5 year warranty runs out, I'll see what's on the market then.

I usually tweak my settings a bit every 6 months or so, just to make sure I'm getting the best out of my Kuro.

 

Are you using a proper measure like an Eye One and software like HFCR to Calibrate and then tweaking calibration setitings like upping contrast and resetting grayscale or just doing it by eye?

If its the latter you are peeing in the wind I dont mean to be rude but you are, its impossible to do by eye

If you have spent £2 - £2.5k on your tv and not calibrated depending on how lucky you are you are probably only getting 70% performance - there is a big improvement to be had for everyone - for most people it will be a 50% ish jump maybe even more its seriously eye opening and so easy

calibration for dummies - a lot of reading but sooooom worth it

someone told mew the ne panasonics come with the test patterns already built in so you will just need to use the measure and software - its even easier

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I'm using the THX optimiser with THX glasses.  Dirol

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I dont know anything about that so cant comment - but I dont think its what a pro would use..

 

Look at this review of the Panasonic 50VT50 - page 2 calibration - this site does really good indepth tv reviews with proper calibration results.

http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/panasonic-tx-p50vt50b-p50vt50-201204101757.htm?page=Calibration

Look at the 50VT50 RBG Tracking and DeltaE - the RGB colours are off and the delta errors which is how you measure gray scale are all high - just barely acceptable which is under 7 and not acceptable in the blacks and dark shades 0 through 40

Now look after he has calibrated the screen the RGB Tracking and Delta Errors are both near perfect - seriously seriously good calibration results!

Now thats a screen that is going to seriously impress, like be as good as you have seen, if not the best you have seen

He does mention THX Cinema as being very close to a calibrated screen so new Panasonic Owners are very lucky, Kuro and other owners are not quite so we have to do it ourselves / get someone in

Its the same for 3D as well if you scroll down not sure that would be calibrated but I am sure its doable

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I dont know anything about that so cant comment - but I dont think its what a pro would use..

 

Look at this review of the Panasonic 50VT50 - page 2 calibration - this site does really good indepth tv reviews with proper calibration results.

http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/panasonic-tx-p50vt50b-p50vt50-201204101757.htm?page=Calibration

Look at the 50VT50 RBG Tracking and DeltaE - the RGB colours are off and the delta errors which is how you measure gray scale are all high - just barely acceptable which is under 7 and not acceptable in the blacks and dark shades 0 through 40

Now look after he has calibrated the screen the RGB Tracking and Delta Errors are both near perfect - seriously seriously good calibration results!

Now thats a screen that is going to seriously impress, like be as good as you have seen, if not the best you have seen

He does mention THX Cinema as being very close to a calibrated screen so new Panasonic Owners are very lucky, Kuro and other owners are not quite so we have to do it ourselves / get someone in

Its the same for 3D as well if you scroll down not sure that would be calibrated but I am sure its doable

To be honest, I'm not that anal about these things. I would rather enjoy watching films on my TV than worry about overly complicated calibration. I'm extremely happy with my TV & can't fault its picture quality. Then why bother?  Smile

 

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