Oldboy, what happened to Homer ?
Can I jump in here please gel?
When you consider the total amount spent on your system to date how much in percentage terms is the cost of calibration? When you do the math it's a low percentage isn't it, even at £250 it's a fair bet that it represents 5% or less for most of us no? To then then spend £250 on a pro calibration isn't alot of money when looked at that way, I'm not saying £250 for a service isn't an inconsiderable amount of money but we all spend alot of money on our hobby so £250 to make the most of your picture isn't really that much when you look at how much we spend.
Of course there is an issue with potential TV repairs or faults in the future and of all the people on here I can perhaps appreciate that dilema the most with my very similar TV history as has been well documented on here but I can assure you that the benefits out weigh the pitfalls once it's done, the difference is night and day and plain to see on my TV. Everyone who has seen my TV post calibration has commented on how natural and detailed the picture is and how it's almost three dimensional at times.
I'm not trying to bully you into getting a calibration done, far from it, I'm just saying that if I owned a VT65 a calibration would be high on my list as it's going to be the most cost effective upgrade that can be made. I know your concerns when it comes to potential TV problems in the future so it's well worth talking that over with whoever you choose prior to deciding if you go ahead or not to see what the cost would be to recalibrate if necessary.
ellisdj is just trying to do a fellow forum member a favour from my point of view from reading through the thread and to therefore criticise him for doing so seems a bit harsh to me and besides it's gels choice what he does and full marks to ellisdj for offering. He stated that he's no professional but can attain good results so armed with that info it's up to gel what he does, he has options and the knowledge of the pros and cons of each to think over.
I would just like to hear your comments post calibration gel if you ever get it done as your TV is capable of so much more than you currently enjoy, you are a sensible person and have given me tons of excellent advice from my time on these forums and I respect your opinion which is perhaps why I'm so keen to see you get the calibration done as it would give another decent opinion on the gains from it (or not).
I would really like to see the results too.
I do get worried when I read things like this though:
Makes the picture duller!
I wish TPS was close to me because then I could just pop into the shop and check them out.
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Wasn't appropriate to my forum name, meant to change it ages ago. The image comes from where my forum name came from ie the movie Oldboy, simply a fabulous movie and one of my top 3 movies of all time
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Gel - do you wont to come to mine for a demo?
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Yes it does make it duller but in a good way! If you read the entire article then the benefits are clear, the duller picture is for a reason as it makes the TV more accurate. Those overly bright and saturated images you currently watch simply aren't accurate, it takes a bit of getting used to but once you acclimatise you don't want to go back, presets simply can't compete with a pro calibration I'm afraid and I was as sceptical as you are now...unfortunately the only way to know for yourself is to get it done.
No amount of pictures, opinions, forum talk or information can bring it home to you as much as actually having it carried out. My thinking before I had it done was that it's an expensive gamble...I had researched it, looked at pictures and videos and talked it over on here but it still felt like a gamble even after I had booked it. I needn't had worried as it turned out to be worth every penny and I have no doubt you would feel the same post calibration but I appreciate the dilema you are currently in and it doesn't really matter what any of us say, you have to just make the decision if you are going to take the plunge or not
By the way, I agree with every word that Oldboy said when he jumped in, even if his new avatar isn't as much fun as the previous one!
Gel, you might know that Steve Withers fairly recently calibrated all four of my televisions. I'm very pleased indeed with the post-calibration results of the Pioneer PDP-428XD in my bedroom, of the Pioneer PDP LX5090 in the second bedroom, and of the much-maligned LG 60PZ950T in the kitchen. I tend to watch the kitchen and my bedroom televisions the most often, and recently I've been marvelling at how good, even on Standard Definition material like the Channel 5 series of programmes - 5*, 5 USA (I have only Freeview, not Sky or Virgin so those channels are not in HD) they look, post-calibration, once I got used to them, which took about a couple of days I guess. Somebody mentioned shadow detail, now very good, even on the LG that has relatively poor black levels, that's why I malign it so much! But I must be honest here - for some reason I'm slightly less impressed with the calibration of my biggest set, the Samsung PS64D8000 in the parlour, than with the other three calibrations, and I'm not quite sure why. However, on all four of the sets, it takes only about 10 seconds to revert to the pre-calibration settings, and boy, do the pre-calibration settings now look garish! Almost like an LED set in a bright shop ....
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Sounds a good idea and thanks for the offer, but I am not allowed to drive! Perhaps in the future? I don't think I will be able to drive for years though!
No I am a bit stuck with transport. Anyone in Milton Keynes could give me a demo?
Ah thanks for the feedback, it is good to know you can go back to the old settings, I think Steve Withers is a good route. Looks like it will cost me £250 though, how much did you pay? Cheers.
only problem here is after seeing your gigantic 65vt65 the 50vt65 will look so small he would want a new tv already
If you get it done gel you will get a full report with all your settings listed for you, you can go back to the presets at the touch of a button with no issue. If the worst happens and you wipe the settings or need to do a factory reset then you just follow the settings in the report and input them to get back to the calibrated result.
£225 to £250 for a single calibration seems to be a pretty standard price.
He would have also wished he'd kept a certain blu ray player but thats bye the bye.....
The 65" is quite something from 8 feet - I love it
8 feet, it must be massive
Its perfect distance for max detail
I also have it raised up on the wall - is 100% better and looks bigger then being level or below eye height.
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