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RE: Philips 55PFL8008 or something else? Confused.

I wonder if this is the same as our 805?

http://reviews.cnet.com/flat-panel-tvs/sony-kdl-55w802a/4505-6482_7-35561934.html

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gel wrote:

rocketrazor wrote:

gel wrote:

I have purchased 8 TVs from John Lewis in the past 2-3 years, and only kept 2!  

blimey, they must love you  Smile

 

Smile  I have spent a fortune in there.  I buy all my electronics there.  And only two of those purchases were because I changed my mind!  Wink

i guess 3 of those were gt50's as well

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RE: Philips 55PFL8008 or something else? Confused.

rocketrazor wrote:

gel wrote:

rocketrazor wrote:

gel wrote:

I have purchased 8 TVs from John Lewis in the past 2-3 years, and only kept 2!  

blimey, they must love you  Smile

 

Smile  I have spent a fortune in there.  I buy all my electronics there.  And only two of those purchases were because I changed my mind!  Wink

i guess 3 of those were gt50's as well

 

Yep!  

 

2 Sony 46 hx803 TVs, first one had a mark on the screen!  

 

Panasonic VT30 50 inch, it was rubbish!  A Samsung 46d8000 it was rubbish!  I think that is 7 actually!  Smile

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RE: Philips 55PFL8008 or something else? Confused.

47" review here

http://www.trustedreviews.com/sony-bravia-kdl-47w805a_TV_review

input lag measured as only 6ms even though it uses lg screen! It's let down in other areas though such as black detail. Guess to comes up to a choice now, price, blacks, input lag etc

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Yep!  

 

2 Sony 46 hx803 TVs, first one had a mark on the screen!  

 

Panasonic VT30 50 inch, it was rubbish!  A Samsung 46d8000 it was rubbish!  I think that is 7 actually!  Smile

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what did you tell JL when you sent the two rubbish ones back ?

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rocketrazor wrote:

 

 

Yep!  

 

2 Sony 46 hx803 TVs, first one had a mark on the screen!  

 

Panasonic VT30 50 inch, it was rubbish!  A Samsung 46d8000 it was rubbish!  I think that is 7 actually!  Smile

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what did you tell JL when you sent the two rubbish ones back ?

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That is fine, could you try and box it for collection!  Smile  They sent me a letter after my purchase too, saying I could change my mind if I wanted to!  Laughing

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Oldboy, the Panasonic 55VT65 is calling you!  Wink

You are spot on with that gel...I can't help but think it's the best tv I can buy this year for PQ but the same old hang ups remain, my past experiences really are a huge barrier to me considering buying one and right now the head is ruling the heart. It would look nice in place of my HX853 though.... excellent!

 

Oldboy, the new Panasonics starting from the 50 series are leagues ahead of the past ones in picture quality, the difference is huge!  Just buy from John Lewis they will look after you.  They are nothing like a Richer Sounds!  You have about a month to change your mind, even after using it!  Then in the 5 year warranty they will fix any problems or give you a refund!  You can't lose.  Smile

I'm not listening....need to introduce some white noise into my head before you wear me down mate excellent!

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Personally, I prefer passive 3D. It's difficult to notice any loss in resolution, and the comfort factor is extremely high. Let us know what you think of the demo.

Will do and will report back with what I thought of the 805 but judging by the review that rocketrazor linked to I doubt it will be too positive.

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Is John Lewis's 28 day returns policy on anything, not only faults. Ie if you purchased sonys w8 got it home set It up and used it for 21 days watching 3d and playing games and found that the lag was to much and the 3d wasn't got enough could you return it? Is it a no quibble 28 day return?

 

Yes.  

That's great to know gel, many thanks for this info as it's not shown on the website that I could find, I presume this applies to online purchases as well as those via a store? I don't have a John Lewis store anywhere near me so I will be relying on an online purchase...the reasons to not purchase a 55VT65 seem to be diminishing by the day!

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47" review here

http://www.trustedreviews.com/sony-bravia-kdl-47w805a_TV_review

input lag measured as only 6ms even though it uses lg screen! It's let down in other areas though such as black detail. Guess to comes up to a choice now, price, blacks, input lag etc

Not one for me judging by that review but good to know that I was right when I said the 8 series uses an LG IPS panel. A tv with black levels that poor isn't one for me and would be a massive step backwards from the tv I have now which is pointless, I will still demo one but I have a feeling it will quickly get dismissed but many thanks for the link.

The input lag on it is an eye opener but I would only really consider it as a dedicated gaming tv as I feel for movies I would feel very short changed judging by that review but I will still seek one out to judge for myself.

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Oldboy wrote:

gel wrote:

rocketrazor wrote:

Is John Lewis's 28 day returns policy on anything, not only faults. Ie if you purchased sonys w8 got it home set It up and used it for 21 days watching 3d and playing games and found that the lag was to much and the 3d wasn't got enough could you return it? Is it a no quibble 28 day return?

 

Yes.  

That's great to know gel, many thanks for this info as it's not shown on the website that I could find, I presume this applies to online purchases as well as those via a store? I don't have a John Lewis store anywhere near me so I will be relying on an online purchase...the reasons to not purchase a 55VT65 seem to be diminishing by the day!

 

Yep.  And you just fill in the online price match form:

 

https://www.johnlewis.com/never-knowingly-undersold

 

And don't forget if that price is beaten up to 30 days afterwards they will refund that money too!  Smile

 

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RE: Philips 55PFL8008 or something else? Confused.

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rocketrazor wrote:

47" review here

http://www.trustedreviews.com/sony-bravia-kdl-47w805a_TV_review

input lag measured as only 6ms even though it uses lg screen! It's let down in other areas though such as black detail. Guess to comes up to a choice now, price, blacks, input lag etc

Not one for me judging by that review but good to know that I was right when I said the 8 series uses an LG IPS panel. A tv with black levels that poor isn't one for me and would be a massive step backwards from the tv I have now which is pointless, I will still demo one but I have a feeling it will quickly get dismissed but many thanks for the link.

The input lag on it is an eye opener but I would only really consider it as a dedicated gaming tv as I feel for movies I would feel very short changed judging by that review but I will still seek one out to judge for myself.

The review even pointed out it was a step backwards, so would be interesting to see what you think of the W805 if you demo it against what you already have.

I think the more and more I look the more and more it points for me to stick to a 50" and see if I want the GT60 or VT65 if I can get it all sorted out with my retailer for replacement or money back on my 50GT50.  The Panny 55VT65 is just to big because of the bulky frame and is expensive for me, which is why I will also probably rule out the W905 and phillips, purely on cost.  Dont think I can convince the better half to spending over 2K on a TV.  Plus by sticking to a 50" it might allow me to justify a swap to OLED in 5-6 years time to get a 55" then.

Happy demoing Oldboy and keep us posted when you decide what to demo and how it goes.

Cheers

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.the reasons to not purchase a 55VT65 seem to be diminishing by the day!

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Oldboy, if you went down the VT65 route I genuinely don't think you will find yourself disappointed - this years panasonic plasma's seem to be pretty much outstanding across the board and the VT especially so.

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And with John Lewis the warranty is transferable if you choose to sell it!  Smile

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And don't forget if that price is beaten up to 30 days afterwards they will refund that money too!  Smile

28 days.  Smile

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