Just found this on the review of the 65VT50 - quite interesting and in complete stark opposite contrast to what Gel said earlier in the thread
The Panasonic TX-P65VT50′s best contrast performance is reserved for the [THX Cinema] mode. This mode achieves startlingly deep black levels which measure at an incredibly deep 0.005 cd/m2, combined with whites that reach around 90 cd/m2 (we say “around” because it depends on the average picture level of the content). The only flat-screen HDTVs to better these results are the last KURO plasma televisions produced before Pioneer exited the TV business (not surprisingly, most owners of those displays are unwilling to part with them). Our review of the Pioneer PDP-LX5090 back in 2008 found black levels of 0.003 cd/m2, making the Panasonic TX-P65VT50′s 0.005 cd/m2 a very close match (it will be impossible to see the difference of 0.002 cd/m2 without scrutinising both screens, side by side, in a pitch black room). It’s taken a while for Panasonic to (more or less) match the absolute black depth of Pioneer’s long-gone displays, but they’ve achieved it at the 65″ size – in one of the picture modes. The overall contrast performance is still not as high, though, because the KURO plasmas could produce searingly bright whites as well.
.......In the [Professional] modes, which do unlock the full range of calibration options, contrast performance takes a hit. Black rises to 0.016 cd/m2, which is still excellent, but is no longer in KURO territory. More worryingly, peak light output is significantly dimmed, with a full 100% white window measuring just 65 cd/m2 after calibration (down from an already dim-ish 70 cd/m2 before
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The Panasonic TX-P65VT50′s best contrast performance is reserved for the [THX Cinema] mode. This mode achieves startlingly deep black levels which measure at an incredibly deep 0.005 cd/m2, combined with whites that reach around 90 cd/m2 (we say “around” because it depends on the average picture level of the content).
But there's no mention of what adjustments can be made. Is two-point white balance adjustment possible using the THX preset? Even then, 90 candela-per-square-metre isn't that bright.
In the [Professional] modes, which do unlock the full range of calibration options, contrast performance takes a hit. Black rises to 0.016 cd/m2, which is still excellent, but is no longer in KURO territory. More worryingly, peak light output is significantly dimmed, with a full 100% white window measuring just 65 cd/m2 after calibration (down from an already dim-ish 70 cd/m2 before
It sounds like Panasonic's method of producing deeper blacks each year is simply to place a darker shade of sunglasses in front of the screen. It'd be nice if the AR filter was uniform this year. If not, this could be a £4,000 turkey, with the ST remaining the most sensible buy among Panasonic's plasma range, even for die-hard videophiles.
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I won't comment on VT50 vs Kuro. It's impossible to reliably judge the difference based on comparisons seen on a computer screen and also not knowing the settings of the TVs being compared.
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Where did you find this rubbish? And I said nothing of the performance of the VT50 65 inch get your facts straight before going throwing the odds!
Everybody knows a smaller screen will give a better black reading, so it is complete rubbish! But hey most people posting on this thread have talked nothing but rubbish!
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More accurate brighter colours on the VT50 like the ZT60 but each to their own! My personal opinion of the GT50 against the 5090 is that it is swings and roundabouts, normal TV I might give to the Kuro but I would definitely go HD to the Panasonic and ask me which one I would prefer I would say the Panasonic.
I didn't read this properly (I've never been good at multitasking). I assumed EllisDJ unearthed some data on the ZT60 (this is the ZT60 thread, after all). Disregard my comments above. I'm taking rubbish. (It's probably best that I beat others to the punch in saying "no change there!")
The ZT60 may still be a £4,000 turkey, though we'll have to wait and see. Oops
Gel, you're reminding me of someone who was an aggressive supporter of Panasonic TVs recently!
Says the aggressive Pioneer fanboy! Who accuses people of saying things they did not!
Btw BB if you are such an expert when it comes to demos, why are you commenting upon a video clip for a comparison against the VT50? Surely you already know which one was better from your demo experience?
Any evidence to support your allegation? Have I ever said that the Pioneer Kuro is better than the newer Panasonics in performance?
What's happened to you gel? I've noticed that since a few weeks, you're getting annoyed at even small things. You've never been like this before.
Let me be the first to say, no change th..... Oh.
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Btw BB you started that not me, and another member has already backed that up! But hey you think you are always right, even though it is obvious you are not!
Yep you said I called you an idiot, forgotten already? What has happened to your memory, why don't you go back and read!
There's no way I can compare the Kuro & VT50 side by side, so I cannot comment. In any case, it's a pointless comparison, as the Kuro is no longer available to buy. I was impressed by the VT50, & it was definitely the best on the shop. If I was in the market for a plasma today, it would be the VT50.
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