Another review. Makes some good points, I think he talks a lot of waffle too.
Interesting! They're the only people talking about "single scan 3D". I never knew you could have different resolutions on the same picture!! Is this even possible?
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Looks like any differences over the VT range are only marginal, which I suspect will cause many to question the price differential and go for the 65" VT if they have the space.
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Hi Gel. Hmmm, it's quite detailed I suppose, but I'm not sure which bits you regard as waffle?
I don't doubt that the ZT is slightly better still, but for me, bigger is better, and I won't be going down from a 64" Samsung to a 60" ZT65 no matter how good the ZT65 is. Particularly as I'm sure that the 65VT65 will itself be fantastic when AVForums review it, as they said they soon would. I do have the space. And no wife!
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I have read it twice now and to be honest don't want to read it again! I find the comparisons they make against the other TVs they mention redundant and pointless. Then they end up comparing the ST50 against the ZT65! I don't like the reviews on that website, I would definitely trust the WHF and AV ones more. I thought he made some interesting points but most of it seemed unnecessary.
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Hi SoSJ, given that you like BIG TVs and you're pretty much reaching the UK limit at 65", plus we've seen your main (?) setup with a large number of seats / viewers, how come you don't go for a PJ?
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Hi there BenLaw! My biggest room is not really that big, I live in a block of tenement flats and my parlour is only 18' 2" by 14' 3" so a 64" or 65" television looks just about okay from the back row of seats, which are 16' from the television. But, relevant to the projector consideration, the room is 10' 10" high. Ideally a projector would be suspended from the ceiling, but that in itself would need checking that the ceiling could take the weight (sometimes up to 15kg) of the projector. The alternative is to mount the projector along the back wall, but that might slightly interfere with the middle two seats in the back (third) row of seats. Plus, I'm not quite sure how you get actual television programmes through a projector? And we also have to consider the cost of a suitable projector screen.
I blame Panasonic for not making either the VT65 or ZT65 plasmas in a 70" screen size!
I see what you mean about the mounting problems, you wouldn't want to cause problems to any of the seating. I think you would watch TV through sky or a pvr device.
Anyway, how about a 70" sharp tv?
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I thought HDTV Review was very good informative and pretty in depth, I find in amusing when people say that other reviews are not worthy or what ever, I certainly dont think one mag or online reviewer is better than another, the more reviews the better, gives a more compelling over view of a product, and comparing one Tv with another has got to be a good thing, this gives the buyer a choice of spending more on a top end model-ZT or saving money on the lower end-ST, especially if there is not night and day in performance. So to moan about to much information/waffle is...Waffle
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I 'reckon there is only one real review,then it is passed round and copied(but in their own words)
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How come no WHF review yet? I'm sure an earlier post stated their review would feature in the June edition.
I have read their reviews for a number of years now and just think they are the worse ones on the Internet. Just personal taste. I agree it is good to read a lot of reviews, and would recommend reading the other ones, I just take what they say with a pinch of salt.
And the review itself jumped all over the place! One minute it was comparing one TV, next minute another! I can't recall them saying how they were comparing the first few. They did say they had the ST50 at hand to compare, so I guess they were comparing the other ones from readings, which is not a great thing in my opinion.
When I read the AV Forum one at least I know Steve Withers has the Pioneer 5090 to compare against.
To be honest the kuro comparison is wearing thin now, thats long gone..yes it was a great set, but with the new sets out now, I think its fair to say that they have moved on some what, we all have our favourate reviews but that does not mean they are the best, and because one mag/forum gets a model in first means squat, you can not think anything less of a mag/forum for getting a review in first.as far as I am concerned most reviews have there fiobles, your damned if you do and damned if you dont, as for the ZT I would want to dem this in any event, and If the ST was not a million miles away I know which one I would buy. So if there is a comparison with a lower end model but still gives value and quality for money, makes sense does,nt it to tell you.
Today I saw a Panasonic 65VT65. Or rather, I got up close and personal with its sealed box, which is huge. I know it's a big TV, but I reckon that the box must be six inches wider that the actual TV, on both sides. (A bit like my 64" Samsung, whose box is also unnecessarily large.) Alas, I'm not allowed to say where I saw it! I will let you know what I think of the actual television when, in about a week or so, it emerges from its box.
Did you see it in your house?
What do you think of that 70" Sharp?
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