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RE: Panasonic to stop making Plasma TVs

There have been discussions about the Panasonic VT65, GT60 & ST60, and also Samsung F8500. Check the relevant threads in "TVs and Projectors" section for more info. They are suitable alternatives, and are coming in 50-inch versions.

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That's a bit of a gutter. It reminds me of when Pioneer pulled the plug - they had not long produced the 9th Gen panels, with the 10th Gen eagerly anticipated, and then gone. No more.

Panasonic seem to have finally caught up with Kuro level quality with VT50 and now ZT65; having done so they appear to be pulling out of plasma. I always regret not getting a  KRP when they were new, but I just couldn't justify the cost having shelled out  £2500 for a 436XDE only 3 years earlier. Plus the 436 was a stunning set in its own right, and gave me 6/7 years of great service.

Perhaps the moral of the story is that I should remortgage to buy a ZT65 and mothball it for future use or perhaps sale ? Or will OLED really allow us to forget about Plasma and leave us wondering why we ever bothered with it ?

 

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cloverleaf146 wrote:

That's a bit of a gutter. It reminds me of when Pioneer pulled the plug - they had not long produced the 9th Gen panels, with the 10th Gen eagerly anticipated, and then gone. No more.

Panasonic seem to have finally caught up with Kuro level quality with VT50 and now ZT65; having done so they appear to be pulling out of plasma. I always regret not getting a  KRP when they were new, but I just couldn't justify the cost having shelled out  £2500 for a 436XDE only 3 years earlier. Plus the 436 was a stunning set in its own right, and gave me 6/7 years of great service.

Perhaps the moral of the story is that I should remortgage to buy a ZT65 and mothball it for future use or perhaps sale ? Or will OLED really allow us to forget about Plasma and leave us wondering why we ever bothered with it ?

 

 

Probably best wait to see what WHF and some of the others say about it before doing anything crazy.   Smile

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gel wrote:

Probably best wait to see what WHF and some of the others say about it before doing anything crazy.   Smile

You might also wait and see what people make of the Samsung F8500 plasma. This is pitched as a ZT65 and Kuro rival, but isn't as expensive.

If Panasonic stops manufacturing plasma TVs this year, those ex-Pioneer engineers have got to go somewhere; and there's no indication at present that Samsung is pulling out of the plasma business. 

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gel wrote:

Probably best wait to see what WHF and some of the others say about it before doing anything crazy.   Smile

You might also wait and see what people make of the Samsung F8500 plasma. This is pitched as a ZT65 and Kuro rival, but isn't as expensive.

If Panasonic stops manufacturing plasma TVs this year, those ex-Pioneer engineers have got to go somewhere; and there's no indication at present that Samsung is pulling out of the plasma business. 

Have always seen Samsung as more about style than substance - they seem to be more concerned about wafer thin bezels and  so called "smart" applications than actual picture quality. We will see, but I would be surprised if the F8500 was anywhere near the ZT65.

 

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No one else has invested in R&D as much as Samsung has. Panasonic has stopped investing in plasma R&D. So anything is possible. I don't think plasma engineers will remain stuck with plasma technology. I'm sure they must be working on OLED.

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I would be surprised if the F8500 was anywhere near the ZT65.

I've been researching the F8500 extensively. I think you'll be surprised.

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No one else has invested in R&D as much as Samsung has. Panasonic has stopped investing in plasma R&D. So anything is possible. I don't think plasma engineers will remain stuck with plasma technology. I'm sure they must be working on OLED.

I'm not suggesting plasma engineers can't (or indeed don't) work on other technologies. I still wouldn't be surprised if Panasonic's plasma engineers were sourced by other manufacturers, assuming Panasonic calls it a day this year.

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The answers to my next questions are probably widely available on the net, but I'll ask them anyway.

Do plasma panels cost more to manufacture than lcds?

If so, by what percentage?

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Developing LCD technology is far cheaper as it's transferable to all sizes including phone screens which is a profitable business, unlike TVs which aren't making money currently & plasma technology cannot be transferred to smaller screens.

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http://www.whathifi.com/news/updated-panasonic-responds-to-reports-its-set-to-pull-out-of-plasma-tvs

Are they or aren't they? ROFL Make your mind up Panasonic!!  Wink
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RE: Panasonic to stop making Plasma TVs

StanleyAV wrote:

http://www.whathifi.com/news/updated-panasonic-responds-to-reports-its-set-to-pull-out-of-plasma-tvs

Are they or aren't they? ROFL Make your mind up Panasonic!!  Wink
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As the original story said,

"Reports from Japan say the company is expected to announce next week that it's starting a three-year plan to trim down its loss-making TV business, and that the strategy could see it stopping plasma panel production next year and also reducing the scale of its in-house LCD panel manufacturing.

"Panasonic's TV business is currently generating falling sales, with 2015 revenue expected to be less than half that achieved in 2009.

"As a result, the division is likely to undergo radical downsizing starting in the next financial year, one element of which will be the ending of plasma production at the company's Amagasaki plant near Osaka, pictured above. That's expected to take place as soon as next year.

"Sources at the company told the Japanese press the company would reduce plasma TV production gradually in consideration of relationships with retailers and other partners, and will consider withdrawing from that sector of the market during the 2014-15 financial year."

I see nothing in the statement the company issued last week that counters those reports: it merely says that no decision has been made as yet. The company could continue to make plasma TVs for the next year or two, and still fulfil the prophecies made in those Japanese press reports.

Indeed, the three-year plan announced last week by Panasonic president Tsuga does show just that trimming down of the TV business in the quest for a return to profitablity, including the elimination of 'unprofitable business divisions', as you can read in my report here. All Tsuga has ruled out is the 'nuclear option' of pulling out of TV altogether.

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