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Panasonic 50GT60 gets best buy award

2013 plasma television reviews have started coming in. Panasonic's GT60 shows promise:

http://www.avforums.com/reviews/Panasonic-TX-P50GT60B-P42GT60B-3D-Plasma-Television-Review_505/Review.html

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RE: Panasonic 50GT60 gets best buy award

Only 4 stars for the TX-L50ET60B LCD in the latest WHF magazine

Looks like Plasma 1, LCD 0

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Does look good, though shame its limited to a maximum of 50" so will be interesting to see reviews of the VT65. The existence of that ZT65 is going to create a real dilemma though - would you want to pay the money for a VT65 only to know in the back of your mind it was 'second-best' every time you watched it??

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Lets hope its free from the problems that some forum members have reported with their GT50s.

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mr malarky wrote:

Does look good, though shame its limited to a maximum of 50" so will be interesting to see reviews of the VT65. The existence of that ZT65 is going to create a real dilemma though - would you want to pay the money for a VT65 only to know in the back of your mind it was 'second-best' every time you watched it??

Doesn't matter much if you personally are happy with it.
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Guess so, and if it does sell for £4k its creeping in to what's likely to be OLED territory within a year or two. Just know what I'm like, and can imagine buying a VT only to sit there quietly wishing I'd gone the extra mile (though am getting married in November, so the whole subject could be irrelevant unless I want to get divorced very soon after!).

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If Panasonic made this in larger screen sizes I would've snapped one up right away! But, I'll just have to wait for the ST60 and VT60 reviews now...

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RE: Panasonic 50GT60 gets best buy award

Here's another review...

http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/panasonic-tx-p50gt60-201304052795.htm

They've given it 'Reference Status'.

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Pretty impressive review!

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Blimey, two reviews!   Smile  Looking forward to seeing it.

Home cinema system: Panasonic 50VT65 (THX calibrated), Pioneer Bdp-lx71, Pioneer Vsx-lx70, B&W FPM Series, B&W PV1.

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What is it with people and reviews? :?  The reviewers are mostly basing their final result on
 the TV post calibration.

 

THIS is not what the majority of people will EVER see on their TVs without paying more for a
 professional to calibrate the TV for each source (and preferably one for day, and one for night).

 

( Also to be bourne in mind, is this is based usually on one reviewer's visual experience of the
 product. WE do not all see the same thing when viewing the natural world and technology
 that tries to emulate a similar visual experience. Some viewers may prefer LCD/LED over plasma,
 and even then we all see and experience colours and brightness differently.
)

 

THEN we have a panel lottery with some owners getting good panels, some getting poor ones :
 this is a big headache if you have to repeat this process!! :shame:

 

YEAR on year since 2009 (to 2012), Panasonic has had problems with its Plasma TVs.
 Its customer service has also been found wanting over this period. It is UNACCEPTABLE
 to keep passing off faults as "Within Specification" such that their warranty for
 repair/replacement rarely gets honoured.

 

My own bitter experience with a Panasonic Viera Z1 TV is an example case. It has inherent
 design faults causing brightness fluctuation in darker or low contrast scenes. I could not
 get a satisfactory resolution from Panasonic UK. The current WhatHifi editor has brought
 this to their attention. :shifty:

 

So let's keep it real here, base your opinions on actual home demonstrations - you are paying
 a lot of money for your TVs and should expect the same level of service that other AV or Hifi
 products would receive.

 

YOU should have high expectations and not have to put up with
  issues that don't reflect the frequent hyperbole that we are repeatedly seeing whenever
 Panasonic products get reviewed. YOU are the customer, NOT the reviewer and
 you should expect to be satisified. :wave:

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RE: Panasonic 50GT60 gets best buy award

We have an exclusive review of the Panasonic VT65 plasma in the June issue of the magazine, on sale May 3rd.

Editor-in-Chief of What Hi-Fi? Sound and Vision and whathifi.com

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StanleyAV wrote:

What is it with people and reviews? :?  The reviewers are mostly basing their final result on
 the TV post calibration.

 

THIS is not what the majority of people will EVER see on their TVs without paying more for a
 professional to calibrate the TV for each source (and preferably one for day, and one for night).

 

( Also to be bourne in mind, is this is based usually on one reviewer's visual experience of the
 product. WE do not all see the same thing when viewing the natural world and technology
 that tries to emulate a similar visual experience. Some viewers may prefer LCD/LED over plasma,
 and even then we all see and experience colours and brightness differently.
)

 

THEN we have a panel lottery with some owners getting good panels, some getting poor ones :
 this is a big headache if you have to repeat this process!! :shame:

 

YEAR on year since 2009 (to 2012), Panasonic has had problems with its Plasma TVs.
 Its customer service has also been found wanting over this period. It is UNACCEPTABLE
 to keep passing off faults as "Within Specification" such that their warranty for
 repair/replacement rarely gets honoured.

 

My own bitter experience with a Panasonic Viera Z1 TV is an example case. It has inherent
 design faults causing brightness fluctuation in darker or low contrast scenes. I could not
 get a satisfactory resolution from Panasonic UK. The current WhatHifi editor has brought
 this to their attention. :shifty:

 

So let's keep it real here, base your opinions on actual home demonstrations - you are paying
 a lot of money for your TVs and should expect the same level of service that other AV or Hifi
 products would receive.

 

YOU should have high expectations and not have to put up with
  issues that don't reflect the frequent hyperbole that we are repeatedly seeing whenever
 Panasonic products get reviewed. YOU are the customer, NOT the reviewer and
 you should expect to be satisified. :wave:

So you're saying all reviews are rubbish, & we should never read them! :O

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RE: Panasonic 50GT60 gets best buy award

Andy Clough wrote:

We have an exclusive review of the Panasonic VT65 plasma in the June issue of the magazine, on sale May 3rd.

:cheers:

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I dont think Stanleyav was saying reviews are rubbish and should not read them, but he does have a point all reviews should be a guide, I read reviews on products that I may be interested in, but will always try to dem, thats the golden rule especailly spending loads of money on a Tv, I think he is trying to explain that most reviews the good ones anyway, are calibrated and tested to the limit which is good, this gives a good indication what can be acheived with the Tv if some one wants to get it calibrated, but most can not afford this nor want to...It may be the Op has a beef with Pana on his personal experience with them, so feels agreaved some way. But I dont think he was saying reviews are rubbish big boss, trouble is some times you can be on a mission and the text you wright comes across not as should..[maybe] However he should know that most good reviews state that out of the box setting are pretty good if not excellent, so its not all about calibration, but it is good to know what can be done to fine tune a Tv.

And I am not having a pop Dirol

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RE: Panasonic 50GT60 gets best buy award

This has been the advice here all along: always demo before purchase. The thread is about discussing early reviews of the TV. Nobody has given any opinion on the TV in this thread yet, so I don't understand his comment of "let's keep it real here, base your opinions on actual home demonstrations". His opening sentence in bold letters rubbishes reviews in general, doesn't it? At no stage has he mentioned that reviews should act as a guide. I'm well verse with StanleyAV's style of posting, and his agenda is to dissuade people from buying the Panasonic. It is useful to know his experience with Panasonic, but that does not mean reviews are rubbish.

With regards to calibration, I do know that What Hi Fi does not calibrate TVs to reflect real world use by most customers. However, for those who want the very best and want to calibrate, there are reviews available to satisfy their needs. TPS in Manchester offers professional calibration for only £99 if you buy a TV from them.

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