"Millions of viewers with HD TV are not getting better pictures"

I think they're referring to those HD TV's that don't have FreeView or FreeSat built in that's capable of picking up HD channels. Even if they do, the majority of channels are standard definition. Virtually every screen about 2 years old won't be capable of accepting HD channels via it's own internal Freeview (and FreeSat only came out about), by my understanding.

By the sounds of it, there are those who are buying HD TV's, taking them home, and thinking they're automatically watching HD. They're obviously buying from the wrong place.....

 

or they're just dim

 

JH

David, maybe the point I was making was not adequately expressed - the BVA categorically state in the aticle that "You are only getting a high definition experience if you are watching content via a bolt-on high definition set-top box, a Blu-ray player or a PS3 console."

I believe this to be incorrect.

like in australia the tv stations broadcast in 1080i and 720p and 576i but not 1080p

Only one channel in Brisbane transmits in dolby digital 5.1 on everything (including the ads) the other channels are hit and miss with DD sound.. and when they do the ads are in stereo and a lot louder than the program being watched. plus when listening in DD the volume is always lower which is a nuisence when you change channel to a non DD channel which is significantly louder.


pay tv , foxtell they call it here, is in 720p and 576i

bob.g:

David, maybe the point I was making was not adequately expressed - the BVA categorically state in the aticle that "You are only getting a high definition experience if you are watching content via a bolt-on high definition set-top box, a Blu-ray player or a PS3 console."

I believe this to be incorrect.

Why?

I think the point the article is trying to make is that most people think that buying a HD TV is enough for them to experience HD. They do not realise that they need a HD source.

OK well, maybe I'm misunderstanding this then. But I thought that a TV that was advertised as being Full-HD 1,920 x 1,080 (16:9) and as having an internal DVB - T2 tuner could receive and display HD signals without an additional STB ? Examples are the Pannny TX-P50G20B and TX-P65VT20B.

If I am wrong someone please correct me. If I am correct then the BVA statement is incorrect.

bob.g:

OK well, maybe I'm misunderstanding this then. But I thought that a TV that was advertised as being Full-HD 1,920 x 1,080 (16:9) and as having an internal DVB - T2 tuner could receive and display HD signals without an additional STB ? Examples are the Pannny TX-P50G20B and TX-P65VT20B.

If I am wrong someone please correct me. If I am correct then the BVA statement is incorrect.

They can, but not everyone owns TV's with DVB-T2 or DVB-S2 tuners for that matter, and even if people have,watching an HD channel doesn't necessarily mean they're watching HD programmes anyway..

that wasnt a very good report , they said people need bolt on boxes , bluray players etc , but no mention of sattelite dishes , virgin hd , freesat tvs , freeview hd tvs ..

OK, my last post on this.

My assertion is that the BVA statement is incorrect because it says that "You are only getting a high definition experience if you are watching content via a bolt-on high definition set-top box, a Blu-ray player or a PS3 console."

I know that the repor in the paper is poor, and that not everybody has such sets, but I just feel affronted that an organiation that seeks to represent the industry shouldmake such an innacurate staement.  

wait till they start making statements about 3d , they will probably say that people who wear glasses will see it , the rest will have to buy glasses

Bob,

If we take the fact that there are now TV's with built in tuners that can access HD content out of the equation then this leaves millions of viewers with 'HD Ready' TVs that need a HD source to benefit from the improved resolution. I believe it is this majority that the article relates to as most think it is enough to just have a HD Ready TV to get HD content.

that may be true messiah , but they are not helping to clarify things by making statements that leave out information , i still think what they said was amateurish at best .

It is the same with Sky HD.  You can add a function in the settings to see what programs ARE actually recorded in hd with hd cammeras.  Some programs on the hd channels are not recorded in hd, so they are infact pulling the wool over our eyes and we are paying for hd when it is not!

I think what they've said is just a simple fact.

"You are only getting a high definition experience if you are watching content via a bolt-on high definition set-top box, a Blu-ray player or a PS3 console."

By bolt-on high definition set-top box they're referring to Sky HD, Freeview HD & Freesat HD set-top boxes.

An HD ready or full HD TV doesn't necessarily mean that they have an HD tuner built-in. It simply means that when fed with an HD source (HD set-top box / blu-ray player / PS3), it will unlock the full capability of the HDTV. Otherwise, you're simply watching SD channels & DVDs.

Very true big boss.  Without HD set box, you are watching normal SD on a HD set!