full hd gaming lag

if gaming lag , or the lack of it , is a major factor in choosing a tv then get a plasma , zero lag , hi def or not

Have a look at the tv in my kit list. We bought the tv about 6 months ago as we to wanted to get the best of our PS3. We have not noticed any lag at all from the tv, its fantastic. I would recommend it right away.

Miggs.

My guess would be you're talking about the extra processing required to upscale a non Full HD game to the Full HD resolution resulting in lag, rather than the different response times inherent between the technologies in the TV?

If that's the case, I guess it depends what type of games you play and how serious you are. I've not noticed any lag when playing online on my Full HD TV, but then I'm a casual gamer, and probably wouldn't notice even if it was happening! Certainly the benefits of Full HD for Blu-Ray would far outweigh any slight lag in online play for me.

are most modern games not either 720p or 1080p though prof ?  im assuming that those that are , are set to output at 576i on whatever console , for non hd tvs , and therefore being downscaled ? if so , could they perhaps play faster on a hdtv that had minimal lag , seeing as there would be less , or no scaling involved ?

I believe most games hang around the 720p range, meaning that they'd need to be upscaled on a Full HD TV. I'd also think there's more processing required to upscale an image compared to downscaling it - can't back that up with a source but it makes sense that it's easier to throw information away than it is to make it up.

hmmm , interesting point , you could well be right

On the X-box 360 if the console is set to output 1080 then the scaling is done in hardware on the console. I presume the PS3 does the same thing.

Indeed, and it's exactly that scaling (whether it be done on the console or on the TV) which introduces the lag compared with someone who is playing on a display where no scaling is required.

Believe me, we're talking split seconds here and, for most people, this really isn't an issue. It's only for hardcore shooters etc. where those split seconds can be the difference between killing someone or being killed that you might actually consider this an issue. Personally, I'm nowhere near good enough at shooters (nor do I really even take them that seriously) so this doesn't even begin to concern me.

Everyone is going to get some form of lag then unless they have a 720 tv and play a 720 game. Even then there will be lag in the likes of Cod an Halo 3 as they are not native 720 and are upscaled in software.

I don't think you have come around the single most important factor for input lag: Interpolation (100 Hz, 200 Hz on LCD screen, intelligent frame creation or similar on plasma screens).
Interpolation requires some serious calcuations introducing the lag, and turning of these features usually decrease input lag significantly.

I am not so sure scaling is actually so important in this regard, and as already mentioned it will not be possible to buy a TV fitting all games as some are in SD, others in 720p or 1080i (don't think there are any in 1080p). There will always be examples where some kind of scaling/deinterlacing will be required.

But in the end no matter what you do there is no getting around these slow LCD panels
Plasma simply is superior for gaming.

i have never had any problems with input lag playing consoles games.

Theres a well known HDTV review site that has a gaming section on each of its reviews with a figure for the amount of lag you will experience during your gaming sessions...would be so much easier for readers of WHF if the magazine or website had that feature in their reviews too.

You wil get some kind of lag on all tv's full hd tv's don't cause it, of course some can handle it better.A lot forum members won't notice anything, and as the Proffessor and a few others have said games' i play like COD, HALO, GEARS OF WAR, lag will occur not alot you can do about  it.I would suggest you try doing some more research on google and then if gaming is going to be your priority look towards plasma.My old Samsung is fine the only time i get problems is with screen tear on my 360.Not sure about games being in 1080p, but what i was  told is that most 360 games are  720p or 1080i a few 1080p and ps3 games are 720p.Hope this helps

Sure.

If you want a fat, heavy,hot,noisy set that burns electricity like a coal fired power station and has a glass screen which reflects light like a goldfish bowl, buy a plasma.

You'll most likely be too busy complaining about phosphor trailling and screen burn to have time to worry about one billionth's of a second lag anyway.

Alternatively, you could join the 21st century and get a new lcd,

Why not try the new Sony 46hx903? whf 5 stars. Blows the new panny into the weeds, by all accounts! 

Believe me LAG is down to the servers, broadband speed, and time of day. I have £1700 47"philips and my son has a £200 32"tecnicks tesco tv. If these tvs can handle hd live sports they easily handle video games. I have both console PS3 and XBOX360 . The 360 suffers the most lag  cos of the Yanks who i blame for most problems anyway. The 360 seems to LAG early morning and late evening just as the Yanks are going to bed and getting up.   So your problem is Yanks not 1080p processing ability.    Have i mentioned the yanks?