What are the size options for this Samsung please?
51 & 64 inches.
Gaargh, that's a bit of a gap! Where's the 55 and 60?!
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Plasma isn't Samsung's focus, LED-lit LCD is, & OLED. So it won't release too many plasma models at the expense of its other ranges.
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Expected to ship from the 18th of March (though this in the US and perhaps a bit later here).
US prices: 51" $1,999; 64" $3,499.
Taking the current exchange rate into account and that fact that we generally get shafted in the UK, I'm guestimating prices will start at $1,500-1,600 and £2,600-2,800, respectively. I could be very wrong, of course.
The US market gets a 60", too, so I'm not sure why we're restricted to the two sizes in the UK. If the F8500 comes very close to the ZT65's performance, it represents excellent value, since the 64F8500 would be roughly a grand less than the 60ZT65.
In case you couldn't tell, I'm excited by the prospect of this television!
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Forgot to include advanced gamma settings for the Professional calibration.
I switched between Professional 1 and Professional 2 (the first with the basic 2.2 gamma setting, the second with the advanced gamma settings), and the picture seems slightly punchier with slightly deeper blacks using the advanced settings.*
Gamma 2.2. Settings as follows from 10 IRE up to 100 IRE:
10 IRE: -22
20 IRE: -14
30 IRE: -9
40 IRE: -7
50 IRE: -4
60 IRE: -1
70 ORE: 1
80 IRE: -1
90 IRE: 0
100 IRE: 0
*Again, as a caveat, copying settings isn't an exact science, but hopefully there's some value in it if you prefer the results.
Thanks again Strapped, I'll try these settings when I get home on Friday night.
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Did you get anywhere with John Lewis?
Didn't bother (the story of my life).
I'm going to wait and see about the F8500, then if the GT is still troublesome, I'll deal with it then.
As I've said before, being away from home 5 days a week makes the whole process of swapping etc, a real pain, so I'll just wait and see.
It is extremely unlikely for JL to swap the TV for you if it gets too late & you haven't been in touch with them, however good they may be. You don't have to swap now, but make them aware of your intentions, so it's on their record. Or send them an email for documentary evidence that you have been in touch.
Blimey bigboss, that's late for you!
Insomnia, antisocial shift pattern, sleeping on the sofa???
I've just finished another writing marathon, hence I'm awake at this absurd hour.
Posting at this time either makes me very dedicated or extremely sad (I'll let you decide)...
Incidentally, I agree about the ever decreasing chances of first rate customer service.
Blimey big boss, that's late for you!
Yes & yes to the first two! The problem is, I find it difficult to go back to sleep if I wake up in the middle of the night.
At least you're not in the dog house!
Right, that's it, I'm getting some sleep.
They do have a record of my problem BB, as I did have a replacement lined up to be delivered, but I cancelled the day before.
Why did I cancel the replacement? From what Strapped had said, I didn't think the replacement would be any improvement on what I had, and could possibly be worse.
So JL know about my problem, and if things do get worse, they are abliged to fix the problem, or replace the tv if it can't be fixed.
I can live with the tv as it is at the moment (I'm using the settings Strapped posted), but I am being cautious of bold, still images. The dse is a minor irritant, only visible during sports if I look for it, so I don't.
I do appreciate the advice, but I'm sure I'll be ok if anything gets worse.
You say plasma isn't Samsung's focus, but it seems Samsung has really got its act together recently.
The F8500 is being pitched as revolution rather than evolution; based on a completely new phosphor, AR filter, and panel driving mechanism. From what I've read, this TV shares little with last year's plasma range.
Several reviewers with hands on experience position this as a substantial leap forward for Samsung and potentially the best value television on offer this year, producing near OLED picture quality at a fraction of the price.
It's true that it appears Samsung has really improved upon its plasma offering in terms of quality. But its main source of profits is LED-lit LCD & hopefully in the future, OLED TVs. It will be careful not to release too many plasma models.
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