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Thorens TD160 still going

Thorens TD160 still going strong here with original TP16 arm. Family owned from new, so about 40 years old I think, if not slightly more. It is waiting for a cartridge replacement, but prices in recent years have shot through the roof. I bought a Goldring 1006 brand new in the mid 90s for £35, I didn't use it much (found it too laid back in my setup at the time) and in about 1999/2000 I fitted it to my brother's Pioneer PL12D turntable. Five years later in a house-clearout my brother threw the PL12D in a skip with my 1006 still in it. Recently I was staggered to find the list-price for the same cartridge is now a whopping £155. (Actually I was just as staggered to find a cartridge I bought 20 years ago is still being sold new. Huge swathes of them will surely be old stock that's been sat around for 15+ years.)

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MajorFubar wrote:

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Thorens TD160 still going strong here with original TP16 arm. Family owned from new, so about 40 years old I think, if not slightly more. It is waiting for a cartridge replacement, but prices in recent years have shot through the roof. I bought a Goldring 1006 brand new in the mid 90s for £35, I didn't use it much (found it too laid back in my setup at the time) and in about 1999/2000 I fitted it to my brother's Pioneer PL12D turntable. Five years later in a house-clearout my brother threw the PL12D in a skip with my 1006 still in it. Recently I was staggered to find the list-price for the same cartridge is now a whopping £155. (Actually I was just as staggered to find a cartridge I bought 20 years ago is still being sold new. Huge swathes of them will surely be old stock that's been sat around for 15+ years.)

I can only speak for Goldring, but the GX range is still produced in the UK, no 20 years old stock...

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Hi-FiOutlaw wrote:

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plastic penguin wrote:

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plastic penguin wrote:

boshk wrote:

plastic penguin wrote:

My system has somewhat changed since I last posted pictures. As my camera has gone up the shute there's little chance in the near future of posting updates.

Afraid to say my TT is very basic: Pro-ject Xpression 1 with a Ortofon cart. Very good for the money but nothing special.

I wouldn't quite call it basic, its a £600 table. Ortofon blue or higher?

No, had mine since 2005. Original price £210, although the dealer gave me a tenner off. Bless.

Ortofon Red which cost £80. It replaced my ClearAudio Classic Wood Aurum cart. Just wish ClearAudio did replacement stylus.

Goldring do, in GX line.

Sorry, you've lost there. "Goldring do" what?

...stylus replacement.*wink*

I know Goldring do that. Unfortunately I have the Ortofon now.

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A late-80s Linn LP12 with

A late-80s Linn LP12 with Basic Plus arm, K9 cartridge (with recent AT95E stylus replacement)....Recently resurrected, and still going strong. Must admit, am absolutely loving the ritual of putting on an LP and actually listening to a whole side rather than the 'instant gratification' of flicking through playlists!

More importantly, it's what I'm playing on it that I most enjoy...

LP12 / Sonos Connect / Fiio X5 / Audiolab 8200DQ / 8200P / LS50

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A Pro-Ject 2-Xperience Acylic

A Pro-Ject 2-Xperience Acylic, currently with a Nagaoka MP-110 attached as I cannot be bothered swapping back to my 2M Blue.

Creek Evolution 5350 amp with Creek Sequel 40 phonoboard Creek Evo 2 CDP and Epos Elan 30 speakers.

 

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DIB wrote:

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A Pro-Ject 2-Xperience Acylic, currently with a Nagaoka MP-110 attached as I cannot be bothered swapping back to my 2M Blue.

Creek Evolution 5350 amp with Creek Sequel 40 phonoboard Creek Evo 2 CDP and Epos Elan 30 speakers.

Those Creeks look the dogs.

How do you rate the Nago cart?

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plastic penguin wrote:

plastic penguin wrote:

DIB wrote:

A Pro-Ject 2-Xperience Acylic, currently with a Nagaoka MP-110 attached as I cannot be bothered swapping back to my 2M Blue.

Creek Evolution 5350 amp with Creek Sequel 40 phonoboard Creek Evo 2 CDP and Epos Elan 30 speakers.

Those Creeks look the dogs.

How do you rate the Nago cart?

 

Cheers.

 

It's a top cart for sure, and for the price (circa £80 new) it's a no-brainer.

My Pro-Ject came with a 2M Blue which is also a superb cart in my opinion, but twice the price of the MP-110. I only bought my MP-110 as someone local to me on Ebay was selling a new one for £50 so I thought I'd buy it as a spare and also see what all the fuss was about.  Like the 2M Blue, it tracks superbly, and again like the 2M Blue there is no hint of harshness, just a lovely clear sound. Since I fitted it 2 or 3 months ago I've really not been inclined to change back to the 2M Blue. That's no reflection on the 2M Blue, it's just such a faff messing about setting up carts correctly, that I can't be bothered basically.

A few years ago I used to have a 2M Red on an old Systemdek, and when I moved up to the 2M Blue the difference was very marked, a huge leap up in quality. When switching between the 2M Blue and MP-110 however, I didn't really detect that much difference if I'm honest, just both quality carts.

 

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DIB wrote:

DIB wrote:

plastic penguin wrote:

DIB wrote:

A Pro-Ject 2-Xperience Acylic, currently with a Nagaoka MP-110 attached as I cannot be bothered swapping back to my 2M Blue.

Creek Evolution 5350 amp with Creek Sequel 40 phonoboard Creek Evo 2 CDP and Epos Elan 30 speakers.

Those Creeks look the dogs.

How do you rate the Nago cart?

 

Cheers.

 

It's a top cart for sure, and for the price (circa £80 new) it's a no-brainer.

My Pro-Ject came with a 2M Blue which is also a superb cart in my opinion, but twice the price of the MP-110. I only bought my MP-110 as someone local to me on Ebay was selling a new one for £50 so I thought I'd buy it as a spare and also see what all the fuss was about.  Like the 2M Blue, it tracks superbly, and again like the 2M Blue there is no hint of harshness, just a lovely clear sound. Since I fitted it 2 or 3 months ago I've really not been inclined to change back to the 2M Blue. That's no reflection on the 2M Blue, it's just such a faff messing about setting up carts correctly, that I can't be bothered basically.

A few years ago I used to have a 2M Red on an old Systemdek, and when I moved up to the 2M Blue the difference was very marked, a huge leap up in quality. When switching between the 2M Blue and MP-110 however, I didn't really detect that much difference if I'm honest, just both quality carts.

 

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Agree 100% with the above; the Red is rather forward and bright but the Blue is a much more tonally balanced and sophisticated sounding cartridge. The MP-110 is open, airy and detailed and is at least the equal of the Blue-there's not much in it.: like DIB, I can't tell the difference. I've listened to all 3 carts on an LP12 and other decent decks and this was my conclusion. As DIB stated, the MP-110 is a no-brainer. Buy with confidence, PP!

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Jim-W wrote:

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DIB wrote:

plastic penguin wrote:

DIB wrote:

A Pro-Ject 2-Xperience Acylic, currently with a Nagaoka MP-110 attached as I cannot be bothered swapping back to my 2M Blue.

Creek Evolution 5350 amp with Creek Sequel 40 phonoboard Creek Evo 2 CDP and Epos Elan 30 speakers.

Those Creeks look the dogs.

How do you rate the Nago cart?

 

Cheers.

 

It's a top cart for sure, and for the price (circa £80 new) it's a no-brainer.

My Pro-Ject came with a 2M Blue which is also a superb cart in my opinion, but twice the price of the MP-110. I only bought my MP-110 as someone local to me on Ebay was selling a new one for £50 so I thought I'd buy it as a spare and also see what all the fuss was about.  Like the 2M Blue, it tracks superbly, and again like the 2M Blue there is no hint of harshness, just a lovely clear sound. Since I fitted it 2 or 3 months ago I've really not been inclined to change back to the 2M Blue. That's no reflection on the 2M Blue, it's just such a faff messing about setting up carts correctly, that I can't be bothered basically.

A few years ago I used to have a 2M Red on an old Systemdek, and when I moved up to the 2M Blue the difference was very marked, a huge leap up in quality. When switching between the 2M Blue and MP-110 however, I didn't really detect that much difference if I'm honest, just both quality carts.

 

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Agree 100% with the above; the Red is rather forward and bright but the Blue is a much more tonally balanced and sophisticated sounding cartridge. The MP-110 is open, airy and detailed and is at least the equal of the Blue-there's not much in it.: like DIB, I can't tell the difference. I've listened to all 3 carts on an LP12 and other decent decks and this was my conclusion. As DIB stated, the MP-110 is a no-brainer. Buy with confidence, PP!

PP needs to save his money to buy a nice bluray player a CA or a Marantz... Wink

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Hi-FiOutlaw wrote:

Hi-FiOutlaw wrote:

Jim-W wrote:

DIB wrote:

plastic penguin wrote:

DIB wrote:

A Pro-Ject 2-Xperience Acylic, currently with a Nagaoka MP-110 attached as I cannot be bothered swapping back to my 2M Blue.

Creek Evolution 5350 amp with Creek Sequel 40 phonoboard Creek Evo 2 CDP and Epos Elan 30 speakers.

Those Creeks look the dogs.

How do you rate the Nago cart?

 

Cheers.

 

It's a top cart for sure, and for the price (circa £80 new) it's a no-brainer.

My Pro-Ject came with a 2M Blue which is also a superb cart in my opinion, but twice the price of the MP-110. I only bought my MP-110 as someone local to me on Ebay was selling a new one for £50 so I thought I'd buy it as a spare and also see what all the fuss was about.  Like the 2M Blue, it tracks superbly, and again like the 2M Blue there is no hint of harshness, just a lovely clear sound. Since I fitted it 2 or 3 months ago I've really not been inclined to change back to the 2M Blue. That's no reflection on the 2M Blue, it's just such a faff messing about setting up carts correctly, that I can't be bothered basically.

A few years ago I used to have a 2M Red on an old Systemdek, and when I moved up to the 2M Blue the difference was very marked, a huge leap up in quality. When switching between the 2M Blue and MP-110 however, I didn't really detect that much difference if I'm honest, just both quality carts.

 

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Agree 100% with the above; the Red is rather forward and bright but the Blue is a much more tonally balanced and sophisticated sounding cartridge. The MP-110 is open, airy and detailed and is at least the equal of the Blue-there's not much in it.: like DIB, I can't tell the difference. I've listened to all 3 carts on an LP12 and other decent decks and this was my conclusion. As DIB stated, the MP-110 is a no-brainer. Buy with confidence, PP!

PP needs to save his money to buy a nice bluray player a CA or a Marantz...*wink*

And a new TT. Hope to have both no later than Xmas.

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PP - Dont forget to make sure the

PP - Dont forget to make sure the Nagaokas get a look in this time - we did try to steer you and the MP110 can be had for £79.95 on ebay right now.

 

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DIB wrote:It's a top cart for

DIB wrote:
It's a top cart for sure, and for the price (circa £80 new) it's a no-brainer.
Even better you can buy replacement styli for it - see http://www.soundfidelity.co.uk/products/nagaoka/ - so now you have the cartridge, it'll be even cheaper than the 2M Blue each time you need a new needle.

 

My system, bought at the beginning of last year, is as in my signature: a Rega setup (RP3 with Elys 2 cart, Brio-R amp and Apollo-R CD player, wired up to Monitor Audio Silver RX6 speakers. It's my first ever experience of hi-fi above entry-level, and I've been blown away by it. I've got used to it, so sometimes I don't notice the improvement so much, but even the other day I was playing a much-loved record and thought 'I'd never have heard that instrument before'.

I've fiddled around a bit with the TT, buying a white drive belt for it (definite increase in tightness and punch to the sound) and some platter and sub-platter dampening from SRMTech (subtle but I think real improvements). I've wondered about demoing the TT-PSU and Fono stage, but comments from some on here suggest that the phono stage in the Brio-R is essentially the same as that in the Fono and that the white drive belt gives much of the speed stability of the PSU. I might still do it.

My next plan is a cartridge upgrade at the end of this year. I have been drooling over a number of different ones online...

This new system has absolutely given me back a lot more joy in listening to music, so it was well worth the outlay. Of course now I've heard how much better equipment of this level can make recordings sound, I'm thinking (and trying not to think) about what I can do to make it sound even better. I'd love a GyroDec, but, but...

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thescarletpronster wrote:

thescarletpronster wrote:

DIB wrote:
It's a top cart for sure, and for the price (circa £80 new) it's a no-brainer.
Even better you can buy replacement styli for it - see http://www.soundfidelity.co.uk/products/nagaoka/ - so now you have the cartridge, it'll be even cheaper than the 2M Blue each time you need a new needle.

 

My system, bought at the beginning of last year, is as in my signature: a Rega setup (RP3 with Elys 2 cart, Brio-R amp and Apollo-R CD player, wired up to Monitor Audio Silver RX6 speakers. It's my first ever experience of hi-fi above entry-level, and I've been blown away by it. I've got used to it, so sometimes I don't notice the improvement so much, but even the other day I was playing a much-loved record and thought 'I'd never have heard that instrument before'.

I've fiddled around a bit with the TT, buying a white drive belt for it (definite increase in tightness and punch to the sound) and some platter and sub-platter dampening from SRMTech (subtle but I think real improvements). I've wondered about demoing the TT-PSU and Fono stage, but comments from some on here suggest that the phono stage in the Brio-R is essentially the same as that in the Fono and that the white drive belt gives much of the speed stability of the PSU. I might still do it.

My next plan is a cartridge upgrade at the end of this year. I have been drooling over a number of different ones online...

This new system has absolutely given me back a lot more joy in listening to music, so it was well worth the outlay. Of course now I've heard how much better equipment of this level can make recordings sound, I'm thinking (and trying not to think) about what I can do to make it sound even better. I'd love a GyroDec, but, but...

Go for a cartridge first - the best Nagaoka you can afford, then the TT PSU - it does make a signifacant improvement IMO

Sounds like your getting addicted - similar to me!

2 years ago I wanted to try vinly so got a used a RP1 - I was hooked, then went onto an RP3, RP6 and now have a Gyrodec SE with RB303 arm and Benz Micro Ace and I love it !

 

Michell / Icon Audio / Kudos

 

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