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The Beatles remastered on vinyl. Yes or no?

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So the recent CD box set has now found its way on to the hallowed black stuff.

 

I should be jumping for joy, I really should. But I'm not.

It seems it's not a true analogue release but a digital to analogue release.

It might be me, but that just doesn't feel right to me.

Apparently, EMI couldn't get agreement from the (fab) four estates with regards to analogue releases. Those pesky multi millionaires.....

 

Are these going to sound any better than my 80's and 90's reissues?

 

Do I have to accept that digital is finally going to take over my listening World? (A bit dramatic I know!)

 

Here are a couple of links with extra information.

 

http://www.whatrecords.co.uk/live/landing/landing344.asp

 

http://www.analogplanet.com/content/beatles-vinyl-remastered-finally-com...

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RE: The Beatles remastered on vinyl. Yes or no?

I don't think an analogue-sourced set was ever on the cards.  From what I've read in various places, several of the tapes had to be digitally repaired in places due to deterioration over time. Vinyl cuts from the original tapes would therefore potentially sound worse than the repaired digital releases.

Though the implication of that is that the new vinyl pressings will be a compromise: not truly analogue like the original LPs (which I expect will continue to bring a premium price) nor as good as the 192/24 digital masters they are being cut from, which is surely what many people would like to get their mits on.

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RE: The Beatles remastered on vinyl. Yes or no?

Just looked at the pre-order price on Amazon: £445.40!  shocked

The chances of me being able to sneak that 'little' purchase past SWMBO is next to nil.

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RE: The Beatles remastered on vinyl. Yes or no?

...and six days later it's down to £299. It's also now appeared in the Beatles' website store, also at £299.
I hope anyone who pre-ordered last week it on Amazon for knocking-on-the-door-of £450 get charged the new price.

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RE: The Beatles remastered on vinyl.

MajorFubar wrote:
...and six days later it's down to £299. It's also now appeared in the Beatles' website store, also at £299. I hope anyone who pre-ordered last week it on Amazon for knocking-on-the-door-of £450 get charged the new price.

Amazon have some sort of guarantee about pre-order pricing . I've been eventually charged less than the pre-order price for quite a few things, and Amazon even send an email to point out the difference. So should be ok.

I've pre-ordered/reserved mine through https://diversevinyl.com/     (they go out to the shows and local places like Audio T   - next one will be Tonbridge Audiojumble http://www.audiojumble.co.uk/ this Sunday 7th October...so they can have my business).

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Ah that's good to know.

So you bit the bullet then?  I'm still umm'ing and ah'ing about it. Half of me says go do it, other half of me says what on earth is the point of buying vinyl pressings of digital masters.

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RE: The Beatles remastered on vinyl. Yes or no?

I reckon this purchase will be justified under the label "Heirloom" - it's not for me darling, it's for our children, our grandchildren...

Far more likely that vinyl will still be around when CDs and downloads/ipods have been consigned to the "where are they now?" file.

("Wifi Streaming granddad? Your generation used to put up with broken up signal/buffering? Put that great Beatles vinyl back on... this spaceship has ionic dilithium stabiliser thrusters...better support than the floor of the what hifi testing room Wink )   

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RE: The Beatles remastered on vinyl. Yes or no?

MajorFubar wrote:

 Half of me says go do it, other half of me says what on earth is the point of buying vinyl pressings of digital masters.

 

My point exactly.

I am tempted, but...............

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RE: The Beatles remastered on vinyl. Yes or no?

Paul Clarke wrote:

MajorFubar wrote:

 Half of me says go do it, other half of me says what on earth is the point of buying vinyl pressings of digital masters.

 

My point exactly.

I am tempted, but...............

Is this the best they will ever be? In which case, no choice but to go for it. All in one place (including Magical Mystery Tour)... >)

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RE: The Beatles remastered on vinyl. Yes or no?

Well theoretically the best they'll ever be as new purchases would be downloads of the digital masters which these LPs are being cut from. And there's the rub. If the hires digital files ever become available, those are what I'd really want, because obviously the LPs can't ever be as good as the masters used to cut them. 

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RE: The Beatles remastered on vinyl. Yes or no?

Please excuse my ignorance... but do you not like the Beatles (in whatever format) that you have now ...2012 ?

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RE: The Beatles remastered on vinyl. Yes or no?

... but 2013 will see the release of the MONO remasters on vinyl! Think I'm going to wait.

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Alantiggger wrote:

Please excuse my ignorance... but do you not like the Beatles (in whatever format) that you have now ...2012 ?

I do, but it interests me when they become available in a fresh format which offers to give me better SQ than I already have.  Ideally I'd go and hunt down some EX+/M- early pressings on vinyl, but collectors have ensured that such examples are priced way above what I could ever afford.

It's all about clever marketing. The Apple USB stick they launched in 2010 could so easily have contained FLACs of the full-res digital masters, which I understand from reading the engineers' interviews are 32 bit 192kHz. But no, they gave us downsampled 24/44 FLACs instead, with the spare space (or some of it) padded with some lousy MP3s. But they knew that if they offered us the best they had, there was nothing left to give.  Like for a start, who would want these vinyl transfers if the full-res digital masters had already been made available.

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Ahh, makes sense, save well and buy when you can then I guess     Smile

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RE: The Beatles remastered on vinyl. Yes or no?

So what's the general consensus?

Suck the lemon and put a few on my Christmas list or stick with what I know?

It's a tough one.

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RE: The Beatles remastered on vinyl. Yes or no?

What have you already got?

As I said in the other thread, anything post-87 is probably from a digital master to start with, and I'm prepared to bet that these new LPs will sound better than any Beatles reissue since then.

If you've got the MFSL collection or some really good early pressings, I wouldn't waste your time on this new batch. But for people like me who can't afford the £1,000+ price the MFSL collection often brings, these are probably as close as I'll ever get, unless one day they offer us the 24bit 192kHz digital masters.

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