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RE: New T/table..please help!

Suggest you re-read the thread.

He says he does not play CD's and clearly states he plugged his headphones into the amp!

Loads of second hand expensive kit!

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RE: New T/table..please help!

Alears wrote:

Suggest you re-read the thread.

He says he does not play CD's and clearly states he plugged his headphones into the amp!

You've got a point there, but he states "I havnt been playin my CDs but my rubbish record player that this one replaced sounded much

better as of right now which is quite frustrating!"

 

So... We've got here a mistery ower selfs... It's not cartridge alignment, amp phono stage, speakers sound good whit is old TT... But can't be the speakers!

connect the cd player and play a CD. 

 

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RE: New T/table..please help!

A cunning plan indeed!

Then, assuming the CD sounds fine, unplug the CD player and connect the phono preamp / turntable into those same phono inputs and try playing an LP.

Loads of second hand expensive kit!

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Alears wrote:

A cunning plan indeed!

Then, assuming the CD sounds fine, unplug the CD player and connect the phono preamp / turntable into those same phono inputs and try playing an LP.

 

Where did i right that "plan" ?! That is your imagination, sorry!!!

All i state is for him to turn on the cd player and play a cd, just that! If the cd sound good, like the old TT then the problem can't be from the speakers! 

It has to be from another element of the system, but not the speakers! 

 

:cheers:

 

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RE: New T/table..please help!

Thanks for the suggestions guys.  I am just home. AFter tea i will hook up my CD player and play it through the AMP

to prove or dis-prove the theory and report back the findings.

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RE: New T/table..please help!

Played a CD and it sounds much better, and approaching what i would call a balance sound, through the speakers than the turntables sounds.  Having said that the bass still sounds quite dominant by a large margin and it also sounds like there is some distortion or vibrating coming from one of my speakers.  Could this be a broken woofer? It is not hugely obvious but when listening hard to the sound you can make it out.

So now I am really confused! It, the RP1, sounds terrific through my h/phones which are plugged into my amp.  It sounds horrendous played through the phono stage, amp and speakers.  The CD player through the amp and speakers sound much better.

Is the signal from the phono stage to the amp compared with that of the line lvl CD player maybe got something to do with it? By that i mean the strength or something that would mean the TT sounds that much worse?

What i also tried was plugging the TT into the CD input of the amp to check that channel but it still sounded crap through speaker and good through h/phones.

Help!

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RE: New T/table..please help!

Do you have another amp or set of speaker home? 

Or can you borrow from some one?  

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RE: New T/table..please help!

Sounds like what bigjimnofool could do with is someone popping round to his house with a complete vinyl system. TT, arm, cart, amplification, speakers. Compare one entire system against the other. Then swap components over one at a time to see what makes the biggest difference, or if it's down to thecombinaton of the whole lot working badly together.

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No unfortunately not.  I think im gonna have to get a new pair of speakers and test them to see if that makes a difference. I m sure ill be able to return them if they are not needed after all to any decent retailer.

 

Im now listening to Meddle by Pink Floyd vinyl through my h/phones and what is now quite apparent is a static type constant buzzing.  Would this indicate any significant problem with the amp or phono stage maybe?  It is very apparent when no music or quiet passages are playing. Hmmm?

Actually the hum is due to the phono stage not being earthed. I can earth it and stop the annoying hum because this TT doesnt have an earthing lead connected with the phono leads!! ARGH!!

This is a f'ing nightmare!!!  I am seriously thinking about plugging my crappy Steepletone deck back in!!

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lindsayt wrote:

Sounds like what bigjimnofool could do with is someone popping round to his house with a complete vinyl system. TT, arm, cart, amplification, speakers. Compare one entire system against the other. Then swap components over one at a time to see what makes the biggest difference, or if it's down to thecombinaton of the whole lot working badly together.

 

Yes please! If anyone is willing and lives in the Scottish Highlands! :grin:

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A WEE UPDATE:

Had both speakers checked by a local HiFi specialist and they are both fine.  However my RP1 is being sent back to the dealer it came from as it has quite a clear "buzz" due to poor grounding.  I believe this can be a problem with this turntable.

So back on the hunt for a turntable I went.  My confindence has been shaken with my experience of the Rega so I have ordered a Project Debut 3 SE which come with the Ortofon Super OM10 cart.  I am confident that this will now be my setup for many a fine hour of happy listening.  Fingers crossed!

Oh and Im also gonna update my speakers since my Missions are at least 10yrs old now.  Been fancying the Wharfedale Diamond 10.1s.  At the HiFi shop he let me hear them and I was impressed with their tone.  Very punchy and bright compared with my boxy beasts bellowing out the bass! : )

 

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RE: New T/table..please help!

Good luck with this one! I haven't give up on Rega if i were in you shoes, but it's your money! 

All the best! 

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I did think about trying another Rega but thought "what if this grounding issue is apparent in the replacement TT" I wasnt willing to take the chance.  Plus I didnt think too much of the Carbon cart which came with it in the first place.  I think the Ortonfon will be a better cart. So all these considered I went for the Project.

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