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RE: Modern vinyl is rubbish?

Good to know, as Fairpot Convention reissues are/were on my "to buy ASAP" list. Some copies are still around.

Esspecialy after I read Fremmer's review:

4 Men With Beards’ 180 gram reissues of all three are well done, featuring paper on cardboard jackets and the 180g pressings are very good, though who did the mastering and where they were pressed is not divulged.

I highly recommend What We Did on Our Holidays. If you like that one, and you surely will, get Liege & Lief and once you’ve gone that far you’ll probably want all three.

Great reissue choices well done by the 4 Men With Beards. And yes, the music and the masters hold up.

 

Finger crossed for better reissue, and hope to see it soon.

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nima wrote:

Good to know, as Fairpot Convention reissues are/were on my "to buy ASAP" list. Some copies are still around.

Esspecialy after I read Fremmer's review:

4 Men With Beards’ 180 gram reissues of all three are well done, featuring paper on cardboard jackets and the 180g pressings are very good, though who did the mastering and where they were pressed is not divulged.

I highly recommend What We Did on Our Holidays. If you like that one, and you surely will, get Liege & Lief and once you’ve gone that far you’ll probably want all three.

Great reissue choices well done by the 4 Men With Beards. And yes, the music and the masters hold up.

 

Finger crossed for better reissue, and hope to see it soon.

Mmmnn...not sure if they were lucky and got better copies or were possibly being slightly generous with the reviews? Although I wouldn`t expect them to be sonically quite as good as the originals the poor pressing (visibly poor) and the surface noise puts these re-issues in my top one, two and three along with my copy of Scott 4 from the same label of worst re-issues ever. Not often I have to lift the arm halfway through a track to stop the aural onslaught but this is what happened on my first play of Scott 4.

I`m guessing someone who cares has taken the steps to issue something better not too many years after these re-issues that just weren`t up to scratch.(pun not intended)

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Funnily enough, I had recently posted this on another thread:

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On a side-note, what has been everyone's experience of recent US pressings? I've had troubles with a lot of the ones I've bought in the past couple of years, since I started buying new vinyl again. In fact, most of them have either contained clicks and pops, had a 'wash' of pressing release agent across them that distorted the sound, been warped or had a combination of these and other faults. There have been problems with some UK/EU pressings (particularly when the pressings are on clear or coloured vinyl), but nowhere near as often as with US pressings. Is this a known, general problem, or have I just been really unlucky?

And the replies in this thread have answered some of those questions. I would be interested to know whether others have had more problems with US pressings than UK/EU pressings, however.

ps: I'm talking about new pressings of new music, rather than 'audiophile' reissues of old albums.

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Newly purchased copy of First Aid Kit - The Lion's Roar is going back to the shop on Saturday due to a defect in the vinyl. 

 

Think I'll open the replcement in the shop and check it before leaving!

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for me the First Aid Kids pressing was not impressive and bordeline defective.  The vinyl was thin, the disc was warped and the quality suffered as a result.  I have not had issues with Lazaretto, though.  Aside from now knowing it played inside out, it sounds great.  I was so concerned my deck was having issues that I pulled it apart, lubed the main bearing, readjusted the tracking force, counterweight and anti-skating only to find it still locked in the groove, first song, side-A.  I was a bit upset when I found out it was designed that way.  I was listening in the dark with my table recessed in a bump-out with three large windows when the street lamp came on and shined just right on the disc to show a floating angel.  I thought I was having a flashback!  It was seriously messed up!  I went to YouTube and watched the video on the pressing to find out a hologram was included.

 

A side note - DO NOT pull off the label to play the hidden tracks!  They are designed to play through the paper and you will not do the record any favors by peeling it off.  I have a Rega RP40, Linn LP12 and Ariston for playback and decided to use the Ariston with SME 3009 tonearm and DV cart to play the hidden tracks.  It was really not worth it.  I played the 45RPM track and it was a Christmas song or something and the 78RPM track on 45RPM sounded like the apocalypse and very freaky.  I did listen to it right after I saw the floating angel so I thought maybe this was the opposite, the devil talking through my deck.

I have had good experiences with modern vinyl but it does seem to have much more surface noise than vintage pressings.  I am not entirely sure why?  I bought virgin vinyl, recycled vinyl pressings, colored pressings and marbled pressings with various levels of noise.  I clean the records and use a stylus gel or cleaning fluid/brush pending the cartridge and both help though not greatly.

 

I have been reading the forums for some time and finally registered.  I have several questions I am sure to post in shortly.  I have searched, read and re-read many posts and topics so I hope not to repost a topic already covered.  Thanks to What HiFi and the members for maintaining such a solid site filled with (mostly) polite, understanding and knowledgeable people.

After reading re: FAK I might return the disc and open a new copy to check for wraped and inconsistencies.

 

Darren

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My Lazaretto copy is fine as well! I tried to play the tracks through the label however and I cannot seem to get a good sound out of there. I think my cart just is not sensitive enough to pick up the grooves through the label. I might need to re-evaluate after an upgrade. (Hooray another excuse!)

Is it possible that this is the cause of not being able to hear the songs?

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I have heard other who have not been able to play the tracks, as well.  I would not worry about it as the tracks are throw-away at best and you would risk funking-up your stylus.  If I have a change I will record them and throw them up on YouTube though I doubt they would stay up long.

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Hello,

 

i totally agree dat vinyl of the last ten years often is , or really bad quality when the noise is ruling and de depth from the pressing is very thint, but offcourse there are great new presses which have been remastered and lowered the amplitude , to gain dynamics and sound nice.

But my sixties and seventies albums have the same problem.

gr richard

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