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I'm New - HI! Just bought a Turntable and Hooked! Is modern music good on vinyl?
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Smile Hi guy!!  I'm hoping to get further inspiration from a 'hobby' which i didn't know i had.

 

In the 80's i accrude some albums, Various Now albums (including the first) as well as loads of singles, loads from old jukeboxes that were being changed over etc. 

 

Anyway these have travelled with the family since and haven't been used - most people would throw them away but i didn't for some reason.

Last week i purchase a Sony LX250H turntable.. probably crap i know but it was only £9.99. I've replaced the needle and managed to sort the 'balance' out as it's not user adjustable. Immediately we (the family) were blown away by how amazing these records sounded to us. Far better than MP3, dare i say even CD if you ignore the pops, hiss and crackles which i feel add to the atmosphere.

In fact, rather than create a boring mp3 playlist we were stacking various albums and single up for me to load them up on the deck... it was a brilliant and very hands on experience that i'd lost (and the kids had never ever even seen).

My confusion is with the material available to buy and also whether to bother buying it - i like varied music including from the likes of The Killers, Coldplay, a couple of Adele tracks, David Guetta, Katy Perry and even (ahem) lady gaga (mainly the wife).

Are these modern vinyl albums simply taken from the CD and therefore a bit of a bit of a con, or is there some way that i can identify whether a more up to date vinyl is actually going to offer the same kind of soundstage as the old '80s records that i have?

I'm even finding it difficult to actual put my finger on what it is about the 80's albums that i have that make it better.. could it be placebo effect and purely that i know that a pretty tonearm is actually mechanically feeding the music to me, or is there more to it?

 

Regards everyone.

Thanks

Barry (yes i love pinball)

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RE: I'm New - HI!

Welcome, Barry. If you love the sound of the vinyl you already have, then you're going to like newer stuff. Assuming you have Charity shpos close to you, then go and browse what they have to offer, or if you want new vinyl, then try to find a record on Amazon, and see how you go. Modern vinyl isn't just ripped from CDs, but from the same source, so isn't an inferior sound. Which isn't to say that you will always prefer one over the other. 

And if you like early music, it's cheap enough from charity shops. You may find that older LPs and 45s are more dynamic than later stuff, when more and more was being squeezed into the same space.

Hope this helps you, and beware of upgradeitis, which may affect you soon. And there's loads of good help and advice on this Forum.

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No reason why modern music shouldn't sound good on vinyl. But bear in mind that most (if not 100%) of new music is recorded digitally, so providing you ignore any of the strange deluded opinions you may read that music on vinyl inherrently sounds better because it's a nutricious whole-grain analogue signal that's not been chopped up into 44,100 tiny pieces per second like them there rubbishy CDs and such like, you'll go far.

But welcome by the way. I hope you have many happy years from your newfound hobby. May the depressing void it leaves in your wallet be sufficiently compensated by the sweet sound of music filling the air.  Dance 4 :rockout:

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Been hovering over this

Been hovering over this thread, but darent reply as I didnt want to get it wrong!

All the modern stuff I have sounds great on Vinyl in terms of SQ - stuff like Lorde, Daft Punk

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Modern vinyl

Agreed. Daft Punk sounds great on vinyl. But so does Caro Emerald and Donald Fagen (Sunken Condos).

The Daft Punk is really interesting. My vinyl recording (rip) sounds much better than the downloads (with the download code). All to do with the mastering and the loudness wars. The dynamic range on modern vinyl seems much better on vinyl than on CD.

In general modern vinyl is much better than in the 70's and 80', mainly to do with more careful pressing and better quality vinyl. OTOH my parents' classical LPs from the 60's, 70's and 80's still sound wonderful. I remember that classical records were always more expensive than popular but in hindsight that was probably justified due to the better quality of the pressings. I have also noticed that classical records came in antistatic sleeves, which have kept the records in good condition over the years.

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RE: Modern vinyl

iMark wrote:
The dynamic range on modern vinyl seems much better on vinyl than on CD.

I know, the irony is unbelievable isn't it. In 1983 they gave us a replay medium with a 90dB+ dynamic range and by 2014 most mass-market albums  use about 6dB of it.

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RE: Modern vinyl

Indeed. Mass market CDs aren't very good at all. Jazz and classical CDs seem OK though. We still have hundreds of CDs from before the loudness wars and they seem OK too, although some analogue to digital transfers aren't as good as they could have been.

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I have also noticed that classical records came in antistatic sleeves, which have kept the records in good condition over the years

Every single record I have bought used or new is cleaned then i use a fresh Nagaoka AntiStat sleeve - this should be a matter of course for all vinyl lovers


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BTW I am sure most people

BTW I am sure most people know this - but Brothers In Arms was on of the first CDs of the time to be recorded digitially, I own both the CD and Vinyl - they both sound excellent, but again the vinyl is my preference..... cos it sounds better Smile

 

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RE: Quote:I have also noticed

Indeed. It's baffling that a lot of new vinyl doesn't come in anti-static sleeves. We also like the Nagaoka sleeves because they fit in the cardboard sleeves.

I think the only new vinyl album that came with the record in an anti-static sleeve we have bought in the last year was a Cannonball Adderley jazz album.

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RE: BTW I am sure most people

stevebrock wrote:

BTW I am sure most people know this - but Brothers In Arms was on of the first CDs of the time to be recorded digitially, I own both the CD and Vinyl - they both sound excellent, but again the vinyl is my preference..... cos it sounds better Smile

 

Billy Joel, i believe, but i prefer vinyl to any digital format.
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RE: BTW I am sure most people

It was Bop till You Drop by Ry Cooder. Now in the attic with all the other CDs. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bop_till_You_Drop

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RE: I'm New - HI! Just bought a Turntable

I bought Biffy Clyro Opposites on vinyl and it's dissappointingly the same (loud!) master as the CD.

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