A thin strip of aluminium? Perhaps even a strip of sorbothane or something like that will put enough distance between scale platter and cartridge?
By the way, because of my custom mat I dont use the scale on the platter but on the subchassis. I just put something level underneath.
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Scales have arrived!
Did a claibration test with a 5p - they came in at 3.25g so bang on the 'money' - no pun intended
Well my RP6 didnt need any tweaking, it was playing at 1.76g - Rega recommend 1.75g for the Exact.
However I did reset everything again to 0, then checked the playing weight was correct - it was.
Dialled in my new tracking weight, checked - all good!
Great buy for £6
. . . I might as well not bother, the recomended tracking weight is fine, but did you try a few points either side? Its 'changes' the sound, you may have prefered it, then again, you may not? No one has any sense of adventure these days, 'what if' . . . like lemings, all follow each other . . . staight over the edge.
Now I have a bit of confidence teaking and Im sure i can reset things accutaely with the scales then I am going to have a little tweak this weekend!
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Go for it Steve, be interested in your findings, even if you stay with 1.75gs, you will now know what 'les and more' sounds like, thats valuable knowledge and experance for the future.
My scales arrived today, and when checking the tracking weight it was only just over 1 gram.
Set it now at 1.75 and it sounds much more detailed, Rita Coolidge never sounded so good, so thanks for the heads up, cracking little gadget......
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Thanks, will try.
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To be safe I put a 1" thick bit of polystyrene on top. Then lowered the stylus slowly to make sure that the scales didn't start showing a -ve reading.
Showed that I have a 1.65g downforce for my Benz Micro Glider.
I think it should be 1.75g, but my Inspire t/t has been setup so that the fine adjustment knob on the Rega RB301 is at 3g.
Apparently, the 3g maximum setting ensures that the least tension is held wthin the spring, and so less likely to go out over time.
But to adjust the weight, I would need to move the counterbalance weight, which is always a big faff, and especially if I'm just trying to find 0.1g change
Think I'll just sit and listen to the new Laura Marling vinyl which has just arrived.
Dandy , why dont you just chuck that 6 quid piece of tat in the bin and buy a proper job. Lets face it ,its going to die sooner or later. Your Glider has a range of 1.7- 2.2g. Benzs optimum is 1.8 -2.0g.. Use your lugholes to listen to what setting you prefer. You can retrofit a Mich Technoweight to your Rega ,less of a faff allround .
I think this and other posts on this thread show just how the hifi enthusiast is being led by the nose, 'accepting what the profesional says is right' . . . ? Instead of getting the right kit, getting down to understanding what is right for you and your system, understanding your sound . . .
Floyd has pointed out the range of this particular cartridge, all cartridges have a range, at this level, the only way is your ears for final adjustment and satisfaction. Cartridge set up is not dificult, especialy on something like a Rega arm, the difficult bit is the delicacy needed, one slip and thats £700 gone! The closer the cartridge is to head/eye hight the easier I find it is, so, sit down, hands and knees or preferably a high table?
Floyd is right about the quality too, a proper stylus guage measures 0 to 5grs, on a platform no more than a couple of mm above the platter and its usualy non magnetic. Even a proper guage will only cost between £20 and £30 on the bay, thays not a lot compared with the cost of some of these cartridges.
Learn to do it your self, get better, consistant results that you can relate to as 'the sound you like', a sound you can return to as a known standard. It then becomes pratical to change and try cartridges, if you wish?
I've already changed the counterweight on the rega arm, can't remember what I upgraded it to at that time of tweaking.
Maybe this weekend I'll see if I can get the weight to 1.8-2.0 and hear what the difference is, if any.
Listening on headphones at the moment, to the new Daft Punk, and sounds pretty fine at 1.65g. Apart from that awful song about getting lucky.
Hadn't even realised it was theirs or wouldn't have bought the album at all.
Oh there will be. If you dont hear any change in sound I suggest you get down the docs for an ear syringing
Give yourself a real suprise and dial the VTF knob to it's maximum (just past '3' IIRC) this completely relaxes the spring (it works by giving more 'negative downforce' the higher it is set).
Now completely rebalance the arm, BUT this time only use the counterweight and scales to achieve the correct downforce and leave the VTF dial as it is (on it's max setting and offering no negative downforce).
This makes it work like an RB250 arm using gravity rather than a spring.
All very counterintuitive, but easy to do if you have accurate scales and a high boredom threshold.
You might prefer it. I always did. Thats why my last TT was a Rega P2 with RB250 arm. (No spring.)
When I did this on my last RB300 (with G1042) it sounded better and tracked better. YMMV.
[Edit] When I last did this, my RB300 arm came as standard with the much denser and smaller tungsten counterweight. So you might find the (inferior) larger steel counterweight provided nowadays has to go too far back on the counterweight stub. (This also depends on the mass of your cartridge of course.)
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I have found that the makers recommendation was fine, a good compromise for decent bass, rythm and no inner groove distortion/sibilance.
Having said that, even a .3g deviation either way would be liveable with and, after a short while, easy to adjust to.
Nice to read that you have been playing around with your settings. Dandys cart is a very delicate precision instrument ,so to speak. I run ,amongst others, pretty much the same cart (albeit with a bit of tree wrapped around it , which ramps the price up another couple of hundred clams ,lol ). Point .1 of a gram either way of 1.8 ( for example ) is noticable.
Yes, though considering that most cartridge makers can 'only' achieve an around 2 degree accuracy of stylus/diamond VTA alignment (Rega/Gandy quote ... ?), as impressive as this is when looking at how these are hand assembled, 'precision' perhaps has to be put in context.
... and yes, I'd love a Benz, even if it is .1 degree outside the afromentioned parameters.
This veriation (Rega/Gandy quote?) is exactly why it is important to set up each individual catridge by ear, recomended tracking is simply that, 'a recomended starting point'. The same applies to VTA, it needs individual attention of the 'ears' to determin the correct, or preferd setting, 'that will do' is simply not good enough at this level, IMHO.
Begs the question; "at this level only arms with VTA adjustmet should be considered"? Or one should certainly be prepared to go through the hassel of introducing shims on the problomatic Rega arm or modifying with the after market options?
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