Never tried it myself but some one told me it works, seems a bit harsh to me
Novel. Never heard of that.
Bear in mind that dirt in grooves is most probably a mixture of biological and non-bio dirt/grease.
An effective cleaner would imo have to contain de-enzymer as well as other cleaners.
I did first go overboard and had something like a three stage process (without the rinses in between) which included all sorts of things including de-enzymer.
I now find that a squirt of windolene with a good brush-in, then a clean with (the best quality) thick kitchen roll to soak it all up in an instant followed by a rinse and brush (a different one) with purified water (and another soak up with kitchen roll) does the same job.
A vaccum record cleaning machine is probably the best solution.
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Me, I use a Disco anti-stat and a homemade fluid of just de-ionised water and dishwasher rinse aid (a few drops per litre of water). Works a treat and costs pennies, so I don't have to be precious about it and can afford to change the fluid in the DIsco after every few records.
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Interesting. Might get one at that cost.
After googling I came across an older post by your good self;
Just for a little experiment, I cleaned a few records with the anti-stat, last night, but only used distilled water. No rinse-aid or alcohol added. My reasoning behind the exp was that the distilled (or de-ionised, in my case) water itself had all it's impurities removed, so nothing could be left behind on the record when it dried. Adding Rinse-Aid, to my mind, seems to be putting something in that could leave a film, or residue, behind.
The results are great.
I'm playing a 44 year-old Opera pressing now, that I cleaned with just the water, and it sounds fantastic. I'm on the fourth and final disc, now, and i've only heard one 'pop' on all of them.
If you haven't tried it, give it a go, you've nothing to lose!
Why did you back to using rinse aid out of interest?
I also use a disco antistat record cleaner with home made fluid, consisting of 80% distilled water, 20% Isaproponol (the purer the better), and a few drops of Ilfotol.
The interesting bit comes next, as I place the disco antistats' screw on label cover into my drill, tighten very carefully, and spin all of the residue off into the bath or outside. I then place it in the drying rack to fully dry, which only takes seconds.
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I was using too much rinse aid before, which prompted me to try the water alone. And that did work well. Most of the time. After posting the thread that you read, I found that sometimes there was water marks left on the records. So, I brought the rinse aid back into the mix and started experimenting with the amount I put in. 3 - 4 drops per litre was what I eventually found to be the perfect amount, to clean the records really well and not leave A: any water marks and B: any noticeable rinse aid residue, behind.
Or you could just put in a drill and spin it all off in seconds like I do.
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It's a contentious subject, the ol' homebrew cleaning fluid thing.
I did a lot of looking into it when I first started the vinyl thing (and when I had a lot more time on my hands. Some may have called me a saddo back then. And rightly so ) and what I found out is that all the isaproponol actually does is turn the fluid into an azeotrope, which means it accelerates the evaporation process. It doesn't actually help with the cleaning at all. I haven't used that word in three years, so it might not be spelt correctly It's the alcohol that makes any fluid expensive, so I decided to forgo it and found that even without it, the records typically dry within ten minutes on the Disco draining stand.
To get the best out of any cleaning fluid, when using it with the Disco, you really need to change the fluid after every few records, especially if they're second hand, and that gets really expensive if you use fluid that has the alcohol in it. Too rich for my blood anyhoo
Yeah, there is that
Good thanks bretty.
I guess I could do without the Isaproponol then, as I spin off all the liquid straight after cleaning.
Trouble is, I've just bought some, so will keep using for a while anyway.
I thought the Isaproponol was a cleaning fluid though?
Thats what I thought, too, initially. But nope. Which is good, cos now we can all save money
Wire wool...works a treat..........
As does sandblasting.
I'm no chemist, however, I find the 'Iso . . . watsit' alcohol stuff to be a brilliant cleaner in the shed, especially good for de-greasing metal and plastic parts, removing self-adhesive glue residues etc. I suspect it does more than just aid evaporation in a home brew record cleaning fluid???
Always used 90% distilled water, 10% IPA & a few drops of dishwasher rinse aid in my Disco anti stat with good results I may just try it without IPA
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