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John Duncan wrote:

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We've never been that great at possession football if at all, maybe we should play to our strenghts which if i'm honest i'm not sure what they are.

Maybe we could adopt these philosophies:

The game is won by the team who commits the fewest errors.

Football favours who provokes more errors in the opposition.

Instead of trying to be superior to the opposition, its better to encourage their mistakes.

Whoever has the ball is more likely to make a mistake.

Whoever renounces possesion reduces the possibility of making a mistake.

Whoever has the ball has fear.

Whoever does not have it is thereby stronger.

I'm not advocating this approach as in my eye this is not football but...

How do you score?

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Yes, apologies, that was awful.

Anyway, I'm not very excited about the world cup. I won't especially mind seeing England being abysmal. My problem is that world football is becoming somewhat homogenized. Don't get me wrong, it's great to see the African and Far Eastern nations becoming much more competitive. But Brazil aren't really very Brazilian any more. Holland aren't very Dutch either. (I think we can rely on the Germans being quite German though.)

I'm sure a few there'll be a few unpredicted results and some nice giant killing. But I think we're destined to see quite a lot of tactical stalemates and quite a lot of physical football.

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Squad announced:

 

http://www1.skysports.com/sky-sports-today

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When I was a kid you barely knew any of the other team's players. The first World Cup I watched on TV was 1966 and it was great for a small kid to see all these exotic teams. Apart from England winning of course, what sticks out most for me was watching the Hungarian team play, and in particular their centre forward, Florian Albert. What a wonderfully stylish player he was. As well as being great players, that Hungry team couldn't half give it out, and they literally kicked Brazil (and in particular Pele) to bits as you could do in those days. Move it on 4 years to Mexico 1970 and apart from Pele I didn't know any other Brazillian player. We all wondered if Brazil would be any good this time, after their abject failure in England!  We soon found out Smile

 

These days the mystery has gone out of the tournament for me. It's still good to watch, but surprise packages are few and far between these days.

 

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Squad announced:

 

http://www1.skysports.com/sky-sports-today

 

Get the champagne ready Gel.

 

(I'm a Red but Chris Smalling, really?  A very lucky boy)

 

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gel wrote:

Squad announced:

 

http://www1.skysports.com/sky-sports-today

 

Get the champagne ready Gel.

 

(I'm a Red but Chris Smalling, really?  A very lucky boy)

 

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Smile

 

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Not a bad squad overall, good decisions made on Cole, Carrick and Cleverley. Disappointed for Ruddy. 

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I'd have taken Cole as back up to Baines, otherwise, it's the squad I would have picked, Shaw is good, but IMHO, too young this time.

Really pleased about Barkley though, and also Lallana, Lambert and Sterling

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Not a bad squad overall, good decisions made on Cole, Carrick and Cleverley. Disappointed for Ruddy. 

 

Yep, Ruddy should've gone for sure!

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Quite excited by the young-looking squad. It's certainly goes against Hodgson's cautious trait. Not jumping thru hoops but it's an interesting group.

Hodgson was right, IMO, not to pick Ruddy. He's a fine goalkeeper but the Norwich defence has blighted his chances. Can't have players lacking in confidence.

Feel sorry for Cole, and given his lack of first team games this season could've worked well in the extreme humidity. Honestly thought Cole would go and Lamps left at home. 

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I've had a look at Hodgesons selection and am underwhelmed by it.  I feel England will have serious problems in Brazil.

Their issue has always been they've had some decent players, no world class player since Gascoigne, but a decent level however they are not top tier in a technical sense.  The same applies tactically. England teams seem to lack the tactical nous of the top tier sides.

Both these things conspire and leaves England on the back foot for large periods of games.  Where they overcome these two things is when they go all out and run their socks off but I fear the climate in Brazil will not be condusive to 110% effort.

 

I expect to see the technically superior teams dominate possession and pass the ball around England who will struggle to maintain their work rate in the high temperatures.

 

I also struggle to see where the perennial optimism of the English media comes from.  The EPL is the standard it is due to the foreign players who ply their trade there, decades of international tournament failures prove this.

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Right back is very weak and i'm not sure how any of the ManU lads got in.

 

Hope Roy plays a young team out there otherwise it'll be the same old farce with Gerrard running his socks off with no effect at all, remember 2010? 

 

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Jota180 wrote:

 

 

I also struggle to see where the perennial optimism of the English media comes from.  The EPL is the standard it is due to the foreign players who ply their trade there, decades of international tournament failures prove this.

 

Hodgson has picked as good a squad as is available to him I reckon.

 

Don't get your point about perennial optimism. It's been refreshing this time round, that both fans and press alike are being realistic about our chances, or lack of. I just hope that we put in some decent performances this time round, unlike  South Africa in 2010 which was just dire.

 

This thing about too many foreign players doesn't wash with me. What was the excuse in 1974, 1978, and to a lesser extent 1994 when England didn't even qualify?

 

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plastic penguin wrote:

Quite excited by the young-looking squad. It's certainly goes against Hodgson's cautious trait. Not jumping thru hoops but it's an interesting group.

Hodgson was right, IMO, not to pick Ruddy. He's a fine goalkeeper but the Norwich defence has blighted his chances. Can't have players lacking in confidence.

 

I don't actually particularly disagree with the selection, but yours seems an odd justification when WBA let in 59 and norwich 62, confidence from the defence must be much of a muchness.

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Jota180 wrote:

 

 

I also struggle to see where the perennial optimism of the English media comes from.  The EPL is the standard it is due to the foreign players who ply their trade there, decades of international tournament failures prove this.

 

Hodgson has picked as good a squad as is available to him I reckon.

 

Don't get your point about perennial optimism. It's been refreshing this time round, that both fans and press alike are being realistic about our chances, or lack of. I just hope that we put in some decent performances this time round, unlike  South Africa in 2010 which was just dire.

 

This thing about too many foreign players doesn't wash with me. What was the excuse in 1974, 1978, and to a lesser extent 1994 when England didn't even qualify?

 

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I think too many in the media believe that because the EPL is a popular league and certainly a good league that this means English football is good.  They then extrapolate this to the national side. However, the reason the EPL is the standard it is is almost entirely down to it's foreign contingent.  This is not the case with the other big leagues, certainly not to the degree it is in England.

 

The reason for the media hype in the 70's was clearly down to 1966.  94 you were up against probably the best Norwegian side ever.

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