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Rooney out with groin strain.

Wonder if he's been... don't go there PP.

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I think you're wrong about Gerrard...

 

Two high profile games come to mind straight away, against Chelsea he lost control of a pass from Sakho and Ba scored, do that in the 89th min against Uraguay and we've lost the game. Or how about the tackle on OxCham where he should of been sent off, lucky he wasnt, thats not the player i would would want.

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This is the problem with English players. If the temp rises above 65 degrees they are knackered. The humidity will be too much, unless they retain the ball - first time for everything.

 

I wouldn't hold your breath PP

 

 

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You dont need to retain the ball to win the game, just do the right thing when you have.  Smile

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shooter wrote:

DIB wrote:

plastic penguin wrote:

This is the problem with English players. If the temp rises above 65 degrees they are knackered. The humidity will be too much, unless they retain the ball - first time for everything.

 

I wouldn't hold your breath PP

 

 

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You dont need to retain the ball to win the game, just do the right thing when you have.  Smile

Playing in around 90% humidity (as they no doubt will) retaining the ball is pretty essential.

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We've never been that great at possession football if at all, maybe we should play to our strenghts which if i'm honest i'm not sure what they are.

 

Maybe we could adopt these philosophies:

 

The game is won by the team who commits the fewest errors.

Football favours who provokes more errors in the opposition.

Instead of trying to be superior to the opposition, its better to encourage their mistakes.

Whoever has the ball is more likely to make a mistake.

Whoever renounces possesion reduces the possibility of making a mistake.

Whoever has the ball has fear.

Whoever does not have it is thereby stronger.

 

I'm not advocating this approach as in my eye this is not football but... 

 

 

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If Hodgson doesn't take Ross Barkley to Brasil I'll give up on England. Yet again Barkley has demonstrated what a player he is - at such a tender age. He reminds me of a young Gazza.

It pains me to say I hope Lampard misses to the trip to S. America. Just hasn't done enough this season. However, I can understand Ashley Cole going: With a lack of games this season could work in our favour, given the extreme heat. He'll be fresher than Luke Shaw, and he'll add experience to the squad, along with Gerrard, Milner and Rooney. 

Pretty sure, though, Hodgson won't be that brave.

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Not for the first time this season Ross Brkley's had a great game, theres no doubt he'll be on the plane.

 

Apart from Hart, Cahill and Jagielka all the other places are up for grabs i would of thought.

 

 

 

 

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I don't care how bad England are at any one time, the idea of not following them is bizarre to me.

 

I would like to see Barkley, Sterling, Shaw taken.

I would like to see the manager look at the way Liverpool have played this season and attempt to emulate it. It doesn't always work as Chelsea's bore buss showed, but in a fairly short cup compettion with a team that are not even close to being favourites, it might just.

I would start with (in a 4 1 2 1 2 formation)

Hart

Johnson, Jagielka, Cahill, Baines

Gerrard

Barkley, Henderson

Sterling

Sturridge Rooney/Defoe (who I would take ahead of Wellbeck who is useless).

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shooter wrote:

We've never been that great at possession football if at all, maybe we should play to our strenghts which if i'm honest i'm not sure what they are.

 

Maybe we could adopt these philosophies:

 

The game is won by the team who commits the fewest errors.

Football favours who provokes more errors in the opposition.

Instead of trying to be superior to the opposition, its better to encourage their mistakes.

Whoever has the ball is more likely to make a mistake.

Whoever renounces possesion reduces the possibility of making a mistake.

Whoever has the ball has fear.

Whoever does not have it is thereby stronger.

 

I'm not advocating this approach as in my eye this is not football but...

 

 

How do you score?

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John Duncan wrote:

shooter wrote:

We've never been that great at possession football if at all, maybe we should play to our strenghts which if i'm honest i'm not sure what they are.

 

Maybe we could adopt these philosophies:

 

The game is won by the team who commits the fewest errors.

Football favours who provokes more errors in the opposition.

Instead of trying to be superior to the opposition, its better to encourage their mistakes.

Whoever has the ball is more likely to make a mistake.

Whoever renounces possesion reduces the possibility of making a mistake.

Whoever has the ball has fear.

Whoever does not have it is thereby stronger.

 

I'm not advocating this approach as in my eye this is not football but...

How do you score?

Penalties.

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John Duncan]</p> <p>[quote=shooter wrote:

How do you score?[

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Ask her out, I suppose.

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shooter wrote:

We've never been that great at possession football if at all, maybe we should play to our strenghts which if i'm honest i'm not sure what they are.

 

Maybe we could adopt these philosophies:

 

The game is won by the team who commits the fewest errors.

Football favours who provokes more errors in the opposition.

Instead of trying to be superior to the opposition, its better to encourage their mistakes.

Whoever has the ball is more likely to make a mistake.

Whoever renounces possesion reduces the possibility of making a mistake.

Whoever has the ball has fear.

Whoever does not have it is thereby stronger.

 

I'm not advocating this approach as in my eye this is not football but... 

 

That's not a million miles away from the school of football tactics that Graham Taylor adopted. With some success at club level, it has to be said, but not internationally. 

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strapped for cash wrote:

John Duncan wrote:

shooter wrote:

We've never been that great at possession football if at all, maybe we should play to our strenghts which if i'm honest i'm not sure what they are.

 

Maybe we could adopt these philosophies:

 

The game is won by the team who commits the fewest errors.

Football favours who provokes more errors in the opposition.

Instead of trying to be superior to the opposition, its better to encourage their mistakes.

Whoever has the ball is more likely to make a mistake.

Whoever renounces possesion reduces the possibility of making a mistake.

Whoever has the ball has fear.

Whoever does not have it is thereby stronger.

 

I'm not advocating this approach as in my eye this is not football but...

How do you score?

Penalties.

 

As well as free kicks and counter attacks.

These tactics were used 8 days ago in a high profile Premier League game. Liverpool had 73% of the possesion but lost by 2 goals.

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shooter wrote:

strapped for cash wrote:

Penalties.

As well as free kicks and counter attacks.

You're anticipating counter-attacks?! 

I'm no expert, but that's not how England has "played" when I've watched.

Surely it's about the whole team camping in the penalty area and diving before shots when the opposition creates openings.

Periodically, one of England's eleven will lump the ball up-field, but there'll be no midfielders or forwards to target, and possession will be surrendered immediately. 

Repeat the above for 120 minutes, before losing on penalties and declaring yourselves unlucky.* A quick management switch then follows. 

Sorry, I know that's very negative, but that's how England has played for roughly two decades.

 

* This presumes England will make it past the group stage; and I think they'll likely finish third.

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strapped for cash wrote:

John Duncan wrote:

shooter wrote:

We've never been that great at possession football if at all, maybe we should play to our strenghts which if i'm honest i'm not sure what they are.

 

Maybe we could adopt these philosophies:

 

The game is won by the team who commits the fewest errors.

Football favours who provokes more errors in the opposition.

Instead of trying to be superior to the opposition, its better to encourage their mistakes.

Whoever has the ball is more likely to make a mistake.

Whoever renounces possesion reduces the possibility of making a mistake.

Whoever has the ball has fear.

Whoever does not have it is thereby stronger.

 

I'm not advocating this approach as in my eye this is not football but...

How do you score?

Penalties.

Not if your England.

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