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MrReaper182 wrote: So long as

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 So long as it makes him happy and he is not hurting anyone why should it be classed as an illness? 

Pay attention, they said it was probably a symptom of his existing illness. Really, you know nothing about Gel's history, so it's probably better not to comment.

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MrReaper182 wrote:
 So long as it makes him happy and he is not hurting anyone why should it be classed as an illness? 

Pay attention, they said it was probably a symptom of his existing illness. Really, you know nothing about Gel's history, so it's probably better not to comment.

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Gel has been open about his illness on this forum, not to mention courageous in discussing his experiences.

A very close relative of mine is diagnosed with the same illness; and while I'm not qualified to comment in a psychiactric context, I strongly suspect that Gel experienced psychosis and should speak with his doctor or mental health worker at the earliest opportunity. 

This is not a comment I make lightly.

Rather, as somebody who has witnessed psychotic episodes on several occasions (and discussed delusions at length with a diagnosed shizophrenic, psychiatrist, and other mental health workers), I find it difficult to interpret Gel's recent comments in any other way.  

To add to the above, we shouldn't suggest that Gel may be about to harm somebody. The idea of schizophrenics as dangerous has no statistical basis. In fact, schizophrenics are no more likely to harm others than anyone else.

The stigma surrounding schizophrenia has been a source of great distress to my close relative; and I feel it's important to dispel certain myths about mental health whenever possible.

Likewise, the frequency with which people throw around terms such as "mental" and "nutter," including on this forum, reveals the extent to which such stigma prevails. I complained to WHF mods about such language on two occasions. I received no response either time.

I hope my comments aren't seen as "preachy." This is an issue I feel very strongly about.

I have tremendous respect for Gel, for his honesty and courage in sharing his experiences. I hope you're well, mate. Please post to let us know that you're OK. 

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The_Lhc wrote:

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MrReaper182 wrote:
 So long as it makes him happy and he is not hurting anyone why should it be classed as an illness? 

Pay attention, they said it was probably a symptom of his existing illness. Really, you know nothing about Gel's history, so it's probably better not to comment.

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I complained to WHF mods about such language on two occasions. I received no response either time.

I wouldn't read too much into that, I never get a response to anything I report (and I've wore that button out a long time ago!). They either action it or they don't but they never reply.

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They either action it or they don't but they never reply.

Point taken, though they still took no action.

That such language remains so pervasive (and is typically unchallenged, considered harmless, or "a bit of a laugh") speaks volumes of perpectives on mental health. 

Insulting and derisory language is (rightly) no longer acceptable in many other contexts. I wonder if people using terms such as "nutter" or "mental" realise how upsetting and debilitating their remarks can be.

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Gel has been open about his illness on this forum, not to mention courageous in discussing his experiences.

A very close relative of mine is diagnosed with the same illness; and while I'm not qualified to comment in a psychiactric context, I strongly suspect that Gel experienced psychosis and should speak with his doctor or mental health worker at the earliest opportunity. 

This is not a comment I make lightly.

Rather, as somebody who has witnessed psychotic episodes on several occasions (and discussed delusions at length with a diagnosed shizophrenic, psychiatrist, and other mental health workers), I find it difficult to interpret Gel's recent comments in any other way.  

To add to the above, we shouldn't suggest that Gel may be about to harm somebody. The idea of schizophrenics as dangerous has no statistical basis. In fact, schizophrenics are no more likely to harm others than anyone else.

The stigma surrounding schizophrenia has been a source of great distress to my close relative; and I feel it's important to dispel certain myths about mental health whenever possible.

Likewise, the frequency with which people throw around terms such as "mental" and "nutter," including on this forum, reveals the extent to which such stigma prevails. I complained to WHF mods about such language on two occasions. I received no response either time.

I hope my comments aren't seen as "preachy." This is an issue I feel very strongly about.

I have tremendous respect for Gel, for his honesty and courage in sharing his experiences. I hope you're well, mate. Please post to let us know that you're OK. 

I'm okay mate.  I have help around me too also so no worry there too. I think it's best I no longer post on this thread.  Thanks guys for the support.

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I'm okay mate.  I have help around me too also so no worry there too.

Glad to hear you're OK, Gel (and that support is available if needed).

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strapped for cash wrote:

+2

Gel has been open about his illness on this forum, not to mention courageous in discussing his experiences.

A very close relative of mine is diagnosed with the same illness; and while I'm not qualified to comment in a psychiactric context, I strongly suspect that Gel experienced psychosis and should speak with his doctor or mental health worker at the earliest opportunity. 

This is not a comment I make lightly.

Rather, as somebody who has witnessed psychotic episodes on several occasions (and discussed delusions at length with a diagnosed shizophrenic, psychiatrist, and other mental health workers), I find it difficult to interpret Gel's recent comments in any other way.  

To add to the above, we shouldn't suggest that Gel may be about to harm somebody. The idea of schizophrenics as dangerous has no statistical basis. In fact, schizophrenics are no more likely to harm others than anyone else.

The stigma surrounding schizophrenia has been a source of great distress to my close relative; and I feel it's important to dispel certain myths about mental health whenever possible.

Likewise, the frequency with which people throw around terms such as "mental" and "nutter," including on this forum, reveals the extent to which such stigma prevails. I complained to WHF mods about such language on two occasions. I received no response either time.

I hope my comments aren't seen as "preachy." This is an issue I feel very strongly about.

I have tremendous respect for Gel, for his honesty and courage in sharing his experiences. I hope you're well, mate. Please post to let us know that you're OK. 

I'm okay mate.  I have help around me too also so no worry there too. I think it's best I no longer post on this thread.  Thanks guys for the support.

Massive respect Gel, didn't realise. Good luck mate.

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I'm okay mate.  I have help around me too also so no worry there too.

Glad to hear you're OK, Gel (and that support is available if needed).

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strapped for cash wrote:

+2

Gel has been open about his illness on this forum, not to mention courageous in discussing his experiences.

A very close relative of mine is diagnosed with the same illness; and while I'm not qualified to comment in a psychiactric context, I strongly suspect that Gel experienced psychosis and should speak with his doctor or mental health worker at the earliest opportunity. 

This is not a comment I make lightly.

Rather, as somebody who has witnessed psychotic episodes on several occasions (and discussed delusions at length with a diagnosed shizophrenic, psychiatrist, and other mental health workers), I find it difficult to interpret Gel's recent comments in any other way.  

To add to the above, we shouldn't suggest that Gel may be about to harm somebody. The idea of schizophrenics as dangerous has no statistical basis. In fact, schizophrenics are no more likely to harm others than anyone else.

The stigma surrounding schizophrenia has been a source of great distress to my close relative; and I feel it's important to dispel certain myths about mental health whenever possible.

Likewise, the frequency with which people throw around terms such as "mental" and "nutter," including on this forum, reveals the extent to which such stigma prevails. I complained to WHF mods about such language on two occasions. I received no response either time.

I hope my comments aren't seen as "preachy." This is an issue I feel very strongly about.

I have tremendous respect for Gel, for his honesty and courage in sharing his experiences. I hope you're well, mate. Please post to let us know that you're OK. 

I'm okay mate.  I have help around me too also so no worry there too. I think it's best I no longer post on this thread.  Thanks guys for the support.

Massive respect Gel, didn't realise. Good luck mate.

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I think I have.   Smile

Hi Gel..

I agree with some concerned members here..Im glad you believe that there is GOD.

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Country star Johnny Cash claimed to have spoken to God and it had a positive effect on his life as It made give up doing drugs and clean up is act. Now It is very unlikely that Johnny or gel have ever spoke with God but never say never as otherwise your being as closed minded as the religious nutjobs who belive in the bible's every world and dismiss science. Gel's not hurting anyone or turned into a religious not job so what does it matter if he belived he heard God? So long as it makes him happy and he is not hurting anyone why should it be classed as an illness? After all it never did Johnny Cash any harn to have belived he spoke with God. 

Let's not make this reply be about Gel because he is far too sensible and shares his distress.  So Mr Reaper, would it be a good thing if a voice had told Johnny Cash, or any other delusional soul, to go drive his car down the highway and run down as many people as possible??????  Or take a gun etc., etc.

In this age of science and information I really do despair.

Did you not read what I said? I said as long as he is not hurting anyone. Read what I put. 

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Gel has been open about his illness on this forum, not to mention courageous in discussing his experiences.

A very close relative of mine is diagnosed with the same illness; and while I'm not qualified to comment in a psychiactric context, I strongly suspect that Gel experienced psychosis and should speak with his doctor or mental health worker at the earliest opportunity. 

This is not a comment I make lightly.

Rather, as somebody who has witnessed psychotic episodes on several occasions (and discussed delusions at length with a diagnosed shizophrenic, psychiatrist, and other mental health workers), I find it difficult to interpret Gel's recent comments in any other way.  

To add to the above, we shouldn't suggest that Gel may be about to harm somebody. The idea of schizophrenics as dangerous has no statistical basis. In fact, schizophrenics are no more likely to harm others than anyone else.

The stigma surrounding schizophrenia has been a source of great distress to my close relative; and I feel it's important to dispel certain myths about mental health whenever possible.

Likewise, the frequency with which people throw around terms such as "mental" and "nutter," including on this forum, reveals the extent to which such stigma prevails. I complained to WHF mods about such language on two occasions. I received no response either time.

I hope my comments aren't seen as "preachy." This is an issue I feel very strongly about.

I have tremendous respect for Gel, for his honesty and courage in sharing his experiences. I hope you're well, mate. Please post to let us know that you're OK. 

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 Bit late on the replays but never mind. Schizophrenics and the likes should not always be classed a drangerous was the point was trying to make. My mother was a schizoprenic befored she died and if you people on here meet her you would not know. As long as the voices they hear are not telling them to hurt anyone or them then there is no harm done. Most of them learn to live some what normal lives. Because of my mother condition I worked in metal health for a time. 

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I've just noticed that gel

I've just noticed that gel hasn't been of the forum for over 6 days, which is a very long time for him.

Do you think God's taken him hostage?  Smile

In all seriousness though, I do hope he's ok.

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