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I'm in the market for a new coffee machine to replace my kaput gaggia cubika. I've been lent a Nespresso, and I really dislike it. I'm therefore looking solely at semi-automatic pump machines. 

I quite like the look of a FrancisFrancis x1 (not the x7.1) and the gaggia carrezza deluxe. 

Anyone used these, or have another recommendation? 

 

 

PS - I've got a "stove-top", so don't suggest that as the best option!

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RE: best coffee machine?

I have a Nespresso, but haven't used it for a while, because I ran out of capsules.

I have been thinking about getting a Krups for a few months. A friend has one, and it is easy to use/clean, and makes cups of coffee (its primary function)

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Krups-Espresso-Coffee-Machine-Silver/dp/B00CMNO7U2/ref=pd_sim_sbs_kh_7?ie=UTF8&refRID=0KTN1FH93JAE5PH5ASG1

But this seems to have similar functionality to your Gaggia, and for the same price.

I haven't used a Francis Francis or a gaggia, so cannot comment on their functionality/robustness. However I can see that the Gaggia has nice styling.

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RE: best coffee machine?

thanks - for me quality of the machine, followed by styling, is of main importance.  For the wife, it's all about the footprint on the worktop, so smaller works for her!

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RE: best coffee machine?

A friend of mine swears on this:

http://www.costco.co.uk/view/product/uk_catalog/cos_10,cos_10.6,cos_2.5.2/166153

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RE: best coffee machine?

Were you not planning on Rancilio in 2010?

http://www.whathifi.com/forum/off-topic-and-miscellaneous/i-want-a-new-coffee-machine?page=1

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RE: best coffee machine?

No idea about coffee machnes but spotted this on a well known deals site, 50% off. Originally £365

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RE: best coffee machine?

This is hard to beat and you'll need to budget £300+ for a decent grinder too http://www.amazon.co.uk/Rocket-Evoluzione-Giotto-Espresso-Machine/dp/B009Y7ORHM

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RE: best coffee machine?

Thanks BB.  I was flirting with the idea of a new machine, but ultimately didn't as it would be a waste of the perfectly acceptable Gaggia. That's not the case now; a new machine is needed. 

 

Further research has left me looking at the gaggia mentioned above and the Rancilio. francisfrancis has a bad reliability record. 

 

PS, ever so slightly stalkery of you to recall that thread...

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Big Aura wrote:

PS, ever so slightly stalkery of you to recall that thread...

:grin:

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RE: best coffee machine?

Save some money, forget the coffee machine and try a Bialetti Moka Express - they are what a lot of Italians uses at home.  They come in a range of sizes from 1 to 12 cups and all spare parts are available.  That said, I have got three different sizes, all of which I bought when I lived in Naples in the 1990s and I have only ever had to replace the rubber washers.  They are widely available (inc. Amazon and John Lewis) and the range tops out at £40.

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ayjaycee wrote:

Save some money, forget the coffee machine and try a Bialetti Moka Express - they are what a lot of Italians uses at home.  They come in a range of sizes from 1 to 12 cups and all spare parts are available.  That said, I have got three different sizes, all of which I bought when I lived in Naples in the 1990s and I have only ever had to replace the rubber washers.  They are widely available (inc. Amazon and John Lewis) and the range tops out at £40.

 

Check the PS Big Aura wrote in the first post.

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I've got a Nespresso which is used quite regularly. I have my eyes on this (it's electric):

 

http://www.costco.co.uk/view/product/uk_catalog/cos_10,cos_10.6,cos_2.5.2/152808?category=cos_2.5.2

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Sorry, missed the PS but it doesn't change my view on the best option.  I have tried most of the different types of coffee maker at a lot of price points and still haven't found one any better than the Bialetti without paying silly money.  The 'Graef' that you are looking at seems to be more or less the same as a Bialetti but with an electric element rather than using the hob and I suspect the results will be about the same - ie. good IMHO.  Indeed, it looks so good, I am tempted myself as I can see it being useful when away from home.

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RE: best coffee machine?

Finally there is a thread in which I can reply with out using words like 'but' or 'depends' etc !!

We have this (Jura ENA 7)

Jura ENA 7

as well as this (Jura ENA 3) 

Jura ENA 3

ENA 3 is already 3 years old (still working flawless) and the 7 is the new purchase (for the second home). They are fully automatic and the display on the front is informative to take care of all the cleaning that is ever needed. We had several machines before but none were as good as Jura. Since the time we use these machines, trips to coffee houses have become only for socializing!

Some friend have Nespresso, which is absolute rubbish - concentrated liquid capsules and no cleaning cycles.. yuck..

I am not too sure whether these beans are available in UK or not but if you can, then give them a try. 

REWE Crema

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May be I am a bit too harsh on Nespresso.. but I prefer Coffee beans to concentrated liquid capsules. Also, I have not noticed any cleaning cycles on these machines which I think is very important (for hygiene as well as longevity of the machine). May be I am wrong and there are cleaning cycles on these machines.

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I have a francis francis x1. looks the part. really nice. does a good job too however if you have the option of Rancilio.... DO IT! a friend has one and it just is so much more powerful in terms of being able to make 2 espressos at once and the frothing is outstanding.

 

 

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