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David Jason, Ronnie Barker spring to mind. Both are/were brilliant comedy actors, equally competent in straight roles, yet not really recognised by the general public for their all-round talent.

Victoria Wood is another who is a fine straight actor...

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I think David Jason was excellent in Open All Hours but other than playing Alfred in Hogfather, which he was very good in, I can't watch him in anything else, I just find, facially at least, he overacts something horrible (by that I mean his facial expressions are a bit over the top). I don't know, he just irritates me. I don't find Delboy believable at all, whereas Granville was such a real character.

I always thought Sylvester Stallone should have got more recognition for Copland, very good performance, I thought. Schwarzenegger could never have pulled something like that off, for example.

I'm sure there's others lurking in the back of my mind, I'll remember them later.

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"pretty boy" Leo Di Caprio is outstanding in What's Eating Gilbert Grape

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"pretty boy" Leo Di Caprio is outstanding in What's Eating Gilbert Grape



His first Oscar nomination.
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plastic penguin:

David Jason, Ronnie Barker spring to mind. Both are/were brilliant comedy actors, equally competent in straight roles, yet not really recognised by the general public for their all-round talent.


Victoria Wood is another who is a fine straight actor...


Discuss...



Johnny Depp called Paul Whitehouse the best actor he has ever seen.

Silvio in The Sopranos - Steven Van Zandt has played with Bruce and the E Street band for 20 odd years and it was his first acting role.
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plastic penguin:

David Jason, Ronnie Barker spring to mind. Both are/were brilliant comedy actors, equally competent in straight roles, yet not really recognised by the general public for their all-round talent.

Victoria Wood is another who is a fine straight actor...

Discuss...

Johnny Depp called Paul Whitehouse the best actor he has ever seen.

Agreed 

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Gerrardasnails:

plastic penguin:

David Jason, Ronnie Barker spring to mind. Both are/were brilliant comedy actors, equally competent in straight roles, yet not really recognised by the general public for their all-round talent.


Victoria Wood is another who is a fine straight actor...


Discuss...


Johnny Depp called Paul Whitehouse the best actor he has ever seen.


Agreed 



Here's me thinking you would nominate a 'Carry On' actor?Wink

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Phil Collins was excellent in the film 'Buster'. Hugh Laurie is annoyingly talented as a serious and comedy actor as well as a musician.

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BIGBERNARDBRESSLAW:

Gerrardasnails:

plastic penguin:

David Jason, Ronnie Barker spring to mind. Both are/were brilliant comedy actors, equally competent in straight roles, yet not really recognised by the general public for their all-round talent.

Victoria Wood is another who is a fine straight actor...

Discuss...

Johnny Depp called Paul Whitehouse the best actor he has ever seen.

Agreed 



Yes, IIRC Depp actually asked Whitehouse if he could appear in the Fast Show, rather than the other way round.

You'd have thought he'd have returned the favour with a role in POTC but maybe he likes him too much for that! I'd like to see Whitehouse play a dark role but perhaps he doesn't want to.
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Phil Collins was excellent in the film 'Buster'. Hugh Laurie is annoyingly talented as a serious and comedy actor as well as a musician.


I can't stand Phil Collins as singer or actor (where's the bucket gone)... so there!Big Smile

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I kind of agree, but he is (was, I read he has something that stops him now) a very good drummer indeed.

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Eric Cantona. Saw in a film about a fat bloke and he was really good.

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I kind of agree, but he is (was, I read he has something that stops him now) a very good drummer indeed.


He was on 'HardTalk' some months back and I think he has some sort of infection which permanently affects his ears. This determines how long he can spend in a recording studio, and means he can't do live shows. Sad for him, good news for us...LOL


Back on topic: Jim Dale, although best known for the 'Carry On' films, has done some really good serious film and stage acting. I think he was one of Spike Milligans favourite actors.

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plastic penguin:

BIGBERNARDBRESSLAW:

Gerrardasnails:

plastic penguin:

David Jason, Ronnie Barker spring to mind. Both are/were brilliant comedy actors, equally competent in straight roles, yet not really recognised by the general public for their all-round talent.

Victoria Wood is another who is a fine straight actor...

Discuss...

Johnny Depp called Paul Whitehouse the best actor he has ever seen.

Agreed 

Here's me thinking you would nominate a 'Carry On' actor?Wink

I can't nominate myself, and I hated all the others, especially Kenneth  

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BIGBERNARDBRESSLAW:

plastic penguin:

BIGBERNARDBRESSLAW:

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plastic penguin:

David Jason, Ronnie Barker spring to mind. Both are/were brilliant comedy actors, equally competent in straight roles, yet not really recognised by the general public for their all-round talent.


Victoria Wood is another who is a fine straight actor...


Discuss...


Johnny Depp called Paul Whitehouse the best actor he has ever seen.


Agreed 



Here's me thinking you would nominate a 'Carry On' actor?Wink



I can't nominate myself, and I hated all the others, especially Kenneth  



Surely not Hattie? Fabulous actress and everyone's confidant

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plastic penguin:

BIGBERNARDBRESSLAW:

plastic penguin:

BIGBERNARDBRESSLAW:

Gerrardasnails:

plastic penguin:

David Jason, Ronnie Barker spring to mind. Both are/were brilliant comedy actors, equally competent in straight roles, yet not really recognised by the general public for their all-round talent.

Victoria Wood is another who is a fine straight actor...

Discuss...

Johnny Depp called Paul Whitehouse the best actor he has ever seen.

Agreed 

Here's me thinking you would nominate a 'Carry On' actor?Wink

I can't nominate myself, and I hated all the others, especially Kenneth  

Surely not Hattie? Fabulous actress and everyone's confidant

Yep, even Hattie.  

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