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The main problem as far as I

The main problem as far as I can see it is rogue traders who often sell through Amazon marketplace, eBay or Rakuten, offering grey market or even worse.

The man on the street buys it and often doesn't know the difference. OK counterfeit you can tell most of the time, but grey market is the same but holding no warranty.

It's a nightmare to be honest, and affects those who source from authorised distributors who can't match dodgy prices.

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Not dead and buries yet...

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The high street headstone was scupltured years ago, but it is only now, as the high street becomes a wasteland, that people are starting to take note.

Things have been changing for a good 15 years now, partly due to the emergence of the internet. Dealers have been closing for decades, but the internet isn't necessarily the reason for disappearing dealers. One of the reasons for some recent disappearances is that many of the owners of hi-fi stores that emerged and thrived in the 70's and 80's are now coming up to retirement age. They been through many recessions, so they know how to look after their business, but I think you'll find that some are just retiring. They've now got to the age where they don't have to put up with the hassle and stress that comes with running a hi-fi store in this modern society that wants things yesterday, and are closing the doors so that they can go and enjoy some of the money they have made from their businesses. 

Speaking to others about this subject, we came to the conclusion that the ball is in the court of the 'one man band' stores, not chains or companies that employ 10/20 or more people. It is easier for one guy on his own to cover himself during a quiet or disastrous month, but when that company has to pay the wages of another 15 people, you can't afford a quiet month. Of course, being on your own means more work, including mail order sales and online promotion, which is needed if you want any chance of surviving - on your own or not. 

 

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The only retailers that will emerge are coffee shops, fast food chains and supermarkets. The idependent dealer is slowly become a part of our heritage, rather than a building block.

I agree there are way too many coffee shops and food outlets (and hairdressers), but you could argue that is feeding demand. Just down the road, there is a real butchers shop - only tiny, and they open from Tuesday until Saturday. They're always busy - why, when within a 5 minute walk you have Sainsburys, Tesco, Iceland, Marks & Spencers, and Co-op? 

 

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There used to be a good little hi-fi shop in Leatherhead. Gone. All record shops within 15 miles of my house. Gone.

Did they have a web presence? Did they sell mail order? Did they get involved in forums? Did they host open days? Or did they just sit there and wait for someone to walk through the door? (Genuine questions - I don't know who you are referring to). Record stores are interesting me at the moment. There's a massive resurgence in vinyl (and turntable sales) over the past 12-18 months, and I ask again - are these record stores just catering to local communities, or are they selling via a website, online sales/auction sites? You may not survive serving locally, but with Internet access, you can supply the whole of the UK, and even the whole world if you're willing.

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RE: Not dead and buries yet...

David@FrankHarvey wrote:

plastic penguin wrote:
The high street headstone was scupltured years ago, but it is only now, as the high street becomes a wasteland, that people are starting to take note.

Things have been changing for a good 15 years now, partly due to the emergence of the internet. Dealers have been closing for decades, but the internet isn't necessarily the reason for disappearing dealers. One of the reasons for some recent disappearances is that many of the owners of hi-fi stores that emerged and thrived in the 70's and 80's are now coming up to retirement age. They been through many recessions, so they know how to look after their business, but I think you'll find that some are just retiring. They've now got to the age where they don't have to put up with the hassle and stress that comes with running a hi-fi store in this modern society that wants things yesterday, and are closing the doors so that they can go and enjoy some of the money they have made from their businesses. 

Speaking to others about this subject, we came to the conclusion that the ball is in the court of the 'one man band' stores, not chains or companies that employ 10/20 or more people. It is easier for one guy on his own to cover himself during a quiet or disastrous month, but when that company has to pay the wages of another 15 people, you can't afford a quiet month. Of course, being on your own means more work, including mail order sales and online promotion, which is needed if you want any chance of surviving - on your own or not. 

 

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The only retailers that will emerge are coffee shops, fast food chains and supermarkets. The idependent dealer is slowly become a part of our heritage, rather than a building block.

I agree there are way too many coffee shops and food outlets (and hairdressers), but you could argue that is feeding demand. Just down the road, there is a real butchers shop - only tiny, and they open from Tuesday until Saturday. They're always busy - why, when within a 5 minute walk you have Sainsburys, Tesco, Iceland, Marks & Spencers, and Co-op? 

 

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There used to be a good little hi-fi shop in Leatherhead. Gone. All record shops within 15 miles of my house. Gone.

Did they have a web presence? Did they sell mail order? Did they get involved in forums? Did they host open days? Or did they just sit there and wait for someone to walk through the door? (Genuine questions - I don't know who you are referring to). Record stores are interesting me at the moment. There's a massive resurgence in vinyl (and turntable sales) over the past 12-18 months, and I ask again - are these record stores just catering to local communities, or are they selling via a website, online sales/auction sites? You may not survive serving locally, but with Internet access, you can supply the whole of the UK, and even the whole world if you're willing.

 

Great insight David. Love the butcher analogy. People are always willing to pay for provenence as long as it's real.

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Thanks Joel

Thanks Joel Smile

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By the way, we all need a

By the way, we all need a haircut once in a while and you can't get that on Amazon.

Or maybe you can these days... :hand:

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Nooooo

I just wrote a long reply and it's vanished.

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Work near them
Sorry to see them go
Didn't know they were bust so went over today to talk about an installation

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RE: Technosound Milton Keynes Goes Bust!

Very sorry to read this news. I moved away from the area a few years ago and only just seen this sad news. It was good to be able to talk to people that knew what they were talking about but modern economic and market ealities made this inevitable I guess.

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RE: Technosound Milton Keynes Goes Bust!

Oh no. I hadn't realised they'd shit until I just googles Technosound Milton Keynes & this was the top result.

I'm gutted. I've spent thousands in there over the years & they always referred to me by name everytime I came in. 

 

 

Sorry to see them go...

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RE: Technosound Milton Keynes Goes Bust!

I spoke to David the manager of Technosound this morning and he is now working here:

 

http://www.ortonsaudiovisual.com/index.php/vision/plasma-televisions.html

 

They do installations too, so this looks like my new local home cinema shop.   Dirol

 

 

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RE: Technosound Milton Keynes Goes Bust!

Nuwidol wrote:
Oh no. I hadn't realised they'd shit until I just googles Technosound Milton Keynes & this was the top result.

Quality typo...

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By the way, we all need a haircut once in a while and you can't get that on Amazon. Or maybe you can these days... :hand:

Funnily enough, everywhere I go these days I'm seeing more and more "gentlemen's barbers", particularly ones offering traditional cutthroat shaves (I've been tempted but you never know if it might be somebody on the forum working there, best not risk it...), there's a couple in Rayleigh High Street I noticed when I was there last week, one of them had guys almost queuing out the door at 4:45pm on a Saturday. Definitely seems to be a growth market.

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The_Lhc wrote:

....particularly ones offering traditional cutthroat shaves....

...Definitely seems to be a growth market.

Groan!

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chebby wrote:

The_Lhc wrote:

....particularly ones offering traditional cutthroat shaves....

...Definitely seems to be a growth market.

Groan!

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RE: Technosound Milton Keynes Goes Bust!

Also sorry to hear of the demise of Technosound. I've known them since they had a shop in Central MK around 30 years ago. Recently bought a pair of B&W CM8s from them. Nice people, I wish them all well.

 

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I always found them pretty useless.

The last time I went in enquiring about a streaming solution I was told by some snotty, ill informed member of staff, 'sorry we only do high quality audio equipment'. I can't imagine why they've gone tits up. 

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