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RE: What can't you do, or think you can't do, on an iPhone?

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IOS may be lacking in usability for you, but it isn't for me..

So why are you bothered about what people can do on other phones then? Just trying to start another argument?

I was curious as to whether there actually are many things you can't do on an iPhone, and how relevant they may be, or that there is a perception that there is...

Just trying to start another argument?" Were you looking in a mirror while typing that?

That's not starting, it's escalating...

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Fr0g, the screen resolution is very relevant. Compare a Nokia Lumia 800 to the iPhone 4, the Nokia has the slightly bigger screen but a much lower pixel density, this means text is harder to read, this is very relevant on a smartphone, how can you say it isn't?

I'm not sure why my ATV3 plays netflix, trailers etc when wirelessly connected to an iPhone and it didn't when connected to a Galaxy Nexus, perhaps that was down to the Nexus? I'll check when i have another Andriod phone here.

 

We've had this discussion. I have held a iPhone 4 and lumia side by side, and I prefer the screen on the lumia. The resolution doesn't affect me in any way, but I accept that for some it can...

But what is "high res"? As I said, there were "high res" screens way before the iPhone 4.

As for the tethering, and as I've mentioned before, iproducts (tm) don't seem to play well with non-iproducts.I tried to create a hotspot for a friend with an ipad and it didn't work. Or by bluetooth. It could have been a one-off, but it's funny how you had a similar problem.

If I was a suspicious bloke I'd say Apple purposely make their kit work "really well" with each other, and "not very well" with other kit. But I haven't a clue if that's the case.

 

 

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RE: What can't you do, or think you can't do, on an iPhone?

The_Lhc wrote:

ooh.. wrote:

The_Lhc wrote:

ooh.. wrote:
IOS may be lacking in usability for you, but it isn't for me..

So why are you bothered about what people can do on other phones then? Just trying to start another argument?

I was curious as to whether there actually are many things you can't do on an iPhone, and how relevant they may be, or that there is a perception that there is...

Just trying to start another argument?" Were you looking in a mirror while typing that?

That's not starting, it's escalating...

Well it's an informative debate, so requires contributing, not escalating..

Now go have some breakfast and come back in a good mood, it's Friday  Smile

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RE: What can't you do, or think you can't do, on an iPhone?

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Fr0g, the screen resolution is very relevant. Compare a Nokia Lumia 800 to the iPhone 4, the Nokia has the slightly bigger screen but a much lower pixel density, this means text is harder to read, this is very relevant on a smartphone, how can you say it isn't?

I'm not sure why my ATV3 plays netflix, trailers etc when wirelessly connected to an iPhone and it didn't when connected to a Galaxy Nexus, perhaps that was down to the Nexus? I'll check when i have another Andriod phone here.

 

We've had this discussion. I have held a iPhone 4 and lumia side by side, and I prefer the screen on the lumia. The resolution doesn't affect me in any way, but I accept that for some it can...

But what is "high res"? As I said, there were "high res" screens way before the iPhone 4.

As for the tethering, and as I've mentioned before, iproducts (tm) don't seem to play well with non-iproducts.I tried to create a hotspot for a friend with an ipad and it didn't work. Or by bluetooth. It could have been a one-off, but it's funny how you had a similar problem.

If I was a suspicious bloke I'd say Apple purposely make their kit work "really well" with each other, and "not very well" with other kit. But I haven't a clue if that's the case.

 

 

High res was the wrong description, and we have been here before, but anyway...

On an iPhone 4/4S one cannot see individual pixels, this is because of the high pixel density of the screen. This means even the smallest text is sharp and legible, this in turn means that even on the 3.5 inch screen, web browsing can be done without zooming.

On a Nokia Lumia 800 (or any phone with a similar or lower ppi), one cannot make out the smallest text, and regular sized text looks jagged, this is because of the lower pixel density, and even on the slightly bigger screen, one needs to zoom in to clearly see some text while web browsing.

The iPhone's high pixel density also means images are crisper, more defined, than those of the Lumia's, and those of any other phone with a lower ppi density.

This is all very relevant in terms of real usage, not just specs. And the iPhone 4 was 16 months (a lifetime in the world of smartphones) ahead of all other smartphones, in having this high ppi, and the advantages it brings. The rest are playing catchup. 

And that's an incontrovertable fact...

 

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RE: What can't you do, or think you can't do, on an iPhone?

ooh.. wrote:

The_Lhc wrote:

ooh.. wrote:

The_Lhc wrote:

ooh.. wrote:
IOS may be lacking in usability for you, but it isn't for me..

So why are you bothered about what people can do on other phones then? Just trying to start another argument?

I was curious as to whether there actually are many things you can't do on an iPhone, and how relevant they may be, or that there is a perception that there is...

Just trying to start another argument?" Were you looking in a mirror while typing that?

That's not starting, it's escalating...

Well it's an informative debate,

Most of it looks like an argument to me, one which I'm mostly not involved with, which feels quite odd.

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Now go have some breakfast and come back in a good mood, it's Friday  Smile

I've had breakfast, twice, and a doughnut and I leave work in an hour, I can't see how my mood can get any better, especially as I'm likely to get very wet this afternoon...

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RE: What can't you do, or think you can't do, on an iPhone?

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fr0g wrote:

ooh.. wrote:

Fr0g, the screen resolution is very relevant. Compare a Nokia Lumia 800 to the iPhone 4, the Nokia has the slightly bigger screen but a much lower pixel density, this means text is harder to read, this is very relevant on a smartphone, how can you say it isn't?

I'm not sure why my ATV3 plays netflix, trailers etc when wirelessly connected to an iPhone and it didn't when connected to a Galaxy Nexus, perhaps that was down to the Nexus? I'll check when i have another Andriod phone here.

 

We've had this discussion. I have held a iPhone 4 and lumia side by side, and I prefer the screen on the lumia. The resolution doesn't affect me in any way, but I accept that for some it can...

But what is "high res"? As I said, there were "high res" screens way before the iPhone 4.

As for the tethering, and as I've mentioned before, iproducts (tm) don't seem to play well with non-iproducts.I tried to create a hotspot for a friend with an ipad and it didn't work. Or by bluetooth. It could have been a one-off, but it's funny how you had a similar problem.

If I was a suspicious bloke I'd say Apple purposely make their kit work "really well" with each other, and "not very well" with other kit. But I haven't a clue if that's the case.

 

 

High res was the wrong description, and we have been here before, but anyway...

On an iPhone 4/4S one cannot see individual pixels, this is because of the high pixel density of the screen. This means even the smallest text is sharp and legible, this in turn means that even on the 3.5 inch screen, web browsing can be done without zooming.

On a Nokia Lumia 800 (or any phone with a similar or lower ppi), one cannot make out the smallest text, and regular sized text looks jagged, this is because of the lower pixel density, and even on the slightly bigger screen, one needs to zoom in to clearly see some text while web browsing.

The iPhone's high pixel density also means images are crisper, more defined, than those of the Lumia's, and those of any other phone with a lower ppi density.

This is all very relevant in terms of real usage, not just specs. And the iPhone 4 was 16 months (a lifetime in the world of smartphones) ahead of all other smartphones, in having this high ppi, and the advantages it brings. The rest are playing catchup. 

And that's an incontrovertable fact...

 

The thing is Max, text doesn't look at all jagged to "me" on my old DHD nor can I see individual pixels, and I simply can't read text on an iPhone without zooming in anyway. The only advantage "I've" seen is that my new phone has a bigger, brighter screen and is readable outdoors. I would be more than happy to sacrifice some resolution for battery life, I mean who the hell needs 1280x720 on a phone!?

Basically, my shoes probably won't fit your feet.

 

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RE: What can't you do, or think you can't do, on an iPhone?

By the way.

 

http://www.gsmarena.com/sharp_930sh-2768.php

2008. 3" screen, 480x854 resolution ~ 327 ppi

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As for the tethering, and as I've mentioned before, iproducts (tm) don't seem to play well with non-iproducts.I tried to create a hotspot for a friend with an ipad and it didn't work. Or by bluetooth. It could have been a one-off, but it's funny how you had a similar problem.

1) My iPad 2 connects easily to my HTC Sensation's wireless hotspot. I see no reason why it should be a problem. Your experience is probably a one-off. Check the settings.

2) Rather annoyingly, my iPod Touch (2nd gen) doesn't connect via Bluetooth to my iPad 2 since iOS 5 update. Will take it to genius bar this weekend probably.

3) I personally found the Lumia 800's screen to be amongst the best in the market. I didn't have any problems reading it.

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RE: What can't you do, or think you can't do, on an iPhone?

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Basically, my shoes probably won't fit your feet.

Max has his own shoes...

 

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RE: What can't you do, or think you can't do, on an iPhone?

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As for the tethering, and as I've mentioned before, iproducts (tm) don't seem to play well with non-iproducts.I tried to create a hotspot for a friend with an ipad and it didn't work. Or by bluetooth. It could have been a one-off, but it's funny how you had a similar problem.

1) My iPad 2 connects easily to my HTC Sensation's wireless hotspot. I see no reason why it should be a problem. Your experience is probably a one-off. Check the settings.

2) Rather annoyingly, my iPod Touch (2nd gen) doesn't connect via Bluetooth to my iPad 2 since iOS 5 update. Will take it to genius bar this weekend probably.

3) I personally found the Lumia 800's screen to be amongst the best in the market. I didn't have any problems reading it.

 

I'll try again with my One X. 

Agreed regarding the Lumia, it's a fantastic screen..

 

btw Max, another one, 2007

http://www.trustedreviews.com/Toshiba-Port-g-G900_Mobile-Phone_review

3" screen, 800x480 313 ppi.

Don't believe the hype :) 

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RE: What can't you do, or think you can't do, on an iPhone?

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Basically, my shoes probably won't fit your feet.

Max has his own shoes...

 

Quality Smile

 

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RE: What can't you do, or think you can't do, on an iPhone?

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Basically, my shoes probably won't fit your feet.

Max has his own shoes...

 

Ah, a sarcastic blast from the past.. It probably won't gather much momentum without your old peer group leader to give it a helping hand. Anyway, a nice reminder as to why i don't like to get too involved in this forum. I'll be off to a friendlier one...

 

BYE BYE....

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RE: What can't you do, or think you can't do, on an iPhone?

ooh.. wrote:

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fr0g wrote:
Basically, my shoes probably won't fit your feet.

Max has his own shoes...

 

Ah, a sarcastic blast from the past.. It probably won't gather much momentum without your old peer group leader to give it a helping hand. Anyway, a nice reminder as to why i don't like to get too involved in this forum. I'll be off to a friendlier one...

 

BYE BYE....

I don't know if this is related to the past. But come on Max, take it easy!  Smile

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RE: What can't you do, or think you can't do, on an iPhone?

Just for good measure on my Android - its friday afternoon and I'm meeting friends in a pub.

 

I activate voice on the phone and say "The Market Porter, Borough Market" and up pops google maps showing the pub and directions on how to get there.

 

Trying doing that on a Iphone4S with Siri

Oh wait - you cant!  party time!

 

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RE: What can't you do, or think you can't do, on an iPhone?

Ironically, we can, and we get exactly the same results you do, thanks google.

 

If you go to google in safari and allow it your location, from then on every time you you go to siri and say "search web The Market Porter, Borough Market"  The first thing safari shows you is google maps of the location. Hit the directions button and the google maps app opens with directions.

So it sucks that we don't get Apple's slick implementation, we just have to slum it with googles Tongue

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