What can't you do, or think you can't do, on an iPhone?
I've not really considered sim free before. I'll add the sim free phone to the sim charges and see what is cheaper in the long run.
Thanks for the suggestion.
Just a quick brows of Orange. Charges for 1gig of data is 31 pounds a month. It's 36 including a one x, so in this case probably cheaper to go for the contract
I'll keep looking though as there must be better deal than that
The charges are different if you call them. When my wife's contract was up for a renewal, she was offered an iPhone 4S for £45 a month which gave 600 mins, unlimited texts & internet (18 month contract) on Vodafone. She instead bought the iPhone 4S upright for £499 & is on a SIM free 12-month contract for £10 a month offering the same number of minutes, texts & data.
Wow, thats a massive saving:
45*18 =810
10*12 + 499 = 619
10*18 + 499 = 679
I'm sold 
Indeed - same for me. I thought I was going to have to take a 12 month contract to get the free minutes + data allowance I needed to ensure I didn't exceed my monthly usage at the right price. After speaking to Vodafone, I ended up with a 30 day rolling contract (so I can switch at any point basically) and this has also given me far more data allowance than I need for phone browsing, which in turn allows me to use my iPhone as a tether for my Macbook when out and about, all for the same price!
This deal was never advertised, it's just what Vodafone have done over the phone to keep me a happy customer.
Same here, was cheaper (not by a huge amount) to buy the phone and use a monthly contract from 3.
How much is a brand new, unlocked, 16gb iPhone 4S in the UK? I'm just curious..
£499, if bought from Apple store.
So you've bought hardware that was outdated 18months ago - even though the new iphone is almost certainly going to be a 1.5Ghz Dual core S4 with a 4''screen in about 4months time.
The new iphone will therefore be at least 2.3 times faster than current iphone 4s, and yet still lag behind android hardware at that time.
Horrible buy - just horrible - even without comparing to android.
Between now and Iphone5 you would be crazy to buy an iphone. At least iphone5 will make apple competitive for a few months.
I suggest you watch those videos to see just how lacking IOS is in features and usuability.
So you've bought hardware that was outdated 18months ago - even though the new iphone is almost certainly going to be a 1.5Ghz Dual core S4 with a 4''screen in about 4months time.
The new iphone will therefore be at least 2.3 times faster than current iphone 4s, and yet still lag behind android hardware at that time.
Horrible buy - just horrible - even without comparing to android.
Between now and Iphone5 you would be crazy to buy an iphone. At least iphone5 will make apple competitive for a few months.
I suggest you watch those videos to see just how lacking IOS is in features and usuability.
I'm not crazy about specs, because I know they do not automatically translate to superior performance. We pre-ordered the iPhone 4S when it was announced, & were amongst the first in the Country to get it. The phone itself does not feel sluggish at all, & does everything my wife wants. Besides, there are certain medical apps for work, which is only available on iOS.
At least it doesn't keep hanging & losing signal for no reason like my HTC. The same manufacturer (Apple) has made the hardware & software, resulting in seamless user experience.
For the record, I own an HTC Sensation. My sister-in-law works for Google, & my brother-in-law is an ex-googler & a current official google tester (testing new products & softwares for Google prior to consumer release). So everyone owns Android products, & the iPhone is the only non-android phone in the family. Yet, it is in no way inferior to Android. This I'm talking from personal experience of using Android phone & iPhone everyday, every single day.
In my house, we have a MacBook, a Windows 7 laptop, an iPhone, an iPad & an Android phone. We like to keep all ecosystems within the house, to enjoy the benefits of all.
One more thing: in my own experience, no one offers better after sales support than Apple. HTC is the worst, & Samsung is no better.
How much is a brand new, unlocked, 16gb iPhone 4S in the UK? I'm just curious..
£499, if bought from Apple store.
So you've bought hardware that was outdated 18months ago - even though the new iphone is almost certainly going to be a 1.5Ghz Dual core S4 with a 4''screen in about 4months time.
The new iphone will therefore be at least 2.3 times faster than current iphone 4s, and yet still lag behind android hardware at that time.
Horrible buy - just horrible - even without comparing to android.
Between now and Iphone5 you would be crazy to buy an iphone. At least iphone5 will make apple competitive for a few months.
I suggest you watch those videos to see just how lacking IOS is in features and usuability.
How anyone can say there was ever anything outdated about the iPhone 4 is beyond me? It was the first phone to have a high res screen, about 16 months before any other, and it's still relatively fast even by todays standards.
For anything web related the 4S is as fast as one's broadband, and for anything else like opening apps, it's hardly likely to be beaten for speed by much, unless the new Android phones are going to be telepathic.
Power and specs aren't the be all, the 4S does what most owners want plenty fast enough, and it's the perfect all round size for many, not too big or heavy, easy to use with one hand and very comfortable in one's pocket. It's also the best looking and well built phone, IMO, as well as being the most desirable and iconic, IMO.
The iPhone 5 may just be the perfect smartphone, IMO, it should as you say, have a 4 inch screen, but will not be much bigger overall, IMO. Will it be competative for long? Perhaps not on paper, but in reality i'd say it will be very competative, i wouldn't mind a share of it's sales.
IOS may be lacking in usability for you, but it isn't for me..
So why are you bothered about what people can do on other phones then? Just trying to start another argument?
So why are you bothered about what people can do on other phones then? Just trying to start another argument?
" Just trying to start another argument?" Were you looking in a mirror while typing that?
It depends what you mean by high res. HTC had 800x480 phones in 3.2" in 2009, which by any standards, is "high res".
It's also pretty irrelevant. It's a phone.
Yes, my new One X is very high res and the screen is better than my old DHD, but I never found that at all wanting.
I do disagree with AnotherJoes line of reasoning. The 4S will certainly not be outdated after the 5 comes out, and developers will continue to develop for it for years to come, but ultimately the iPhone is just a small, trendy phone and my One X is a larger, less trendy phone. Nothing more, nothing less. Innovative...nah. The best phone...It depends on your needs.
Each to his or her own.
But your recent conversion to the iPhone highlights exactly one reason why I personally don't want one (even though I have considered it). You've had iPhone, then Galaxy Nexus, then iPhone, then HTC Sensation XL then galaxy Note, then iPhone...But now you have bought an ATV and you no longer have quite the ability to go back to an Android or even Windows phone. It's the lock-in aspect that bothers me.
Fr0g, the screen resolution is very relevant. Compare a Nokia Lumia 800 to the iPhone 4, the Nokia has the slightly bigger screen but a much lower pixel density, this means text is harder to read, this is very relevant on a smartphone, how can you say it isn't?
I'm not sure why my ATV3 plays netflix, trailers etc when wirelessly connected to an iPhone and it didn't when connected to a Galaxy Nexus, perhaps that was down to the Nexus? I'll check when i have another Andriod phone here.
But your recent conversion to the iPhone highlights exactly one reason why I personally don't want one (even though I have considered it). You've had iPhone, then Galaxy Nexus, then iPhone, then HTC Sensation XL then galaxy Note, then iPhone...But now you have bought an ATV and you no longer have quite the ability to go back to an Android or even Windows phone. It's the lock-in aspect that bothers me.
Im not trying to convert you, but the sake of argument there are a fair amount of AirPlay apps coming out for Android, so Max's ATV wouldn't be useless if he heads back to Android when the S3 comes out
http://m.gizmodo.com/5883721/the-top-7-android-music-apps-for-apple-airplay
If it were me, i'd not commit to a new contract (if that's possible) and buy sim free, so you can change phones at any point, you may end up paying a bit more for calls, data etc, but it could be worth it to have the flexibility.
It's actually cheaper to do this (not by a lot admittedly - I worked out about £60 or so for me over 2 years). It assumes you have the available upfront cash to do so though.
It depends on what tarrifs are available and how much the contract adds up to.
I got my One X on a 2 year contract, but that includes free internet (unliimited), and the total price for the contract works out at around the same price as the phone new from a store (ie 2 years interest free credit). It's also not locked.
So, while I am certainly fixed to the carrier, I am not stopped from selling on/swapping phones if I wished. But that's not my style either way
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