i have found 2 new releases that it can not play.
Elysium and Kick Ass 2 and Cyberlink have no solution.
so 2 pcs that have ODD with bundled software that does not work. well actually they did provide the 10 version as the 8 did not work for a similar reason.
but what gets my Goat the link they provided takes you to a page where you could buy version 13 for 64€ while in in program buy/upgrade is 36€
think i will be using the DVD player for a while.