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Can someone please explain why imacs and apple products get such negative and horrible comments and reviews.

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One thing to bear in mind - when you are told you can get the same performance for less money, it is simply untrue.  You can get the same specification for less money, true. However, just as all 50w amplifiers are not of the same quality, specification is only part of the story. Mac OSX, the operating system is what most people like about Macs, not the design, reliability etc. The only place you can get this is on a Mac. If you want your computer to work for you, rather than spend ages getting it to work, buy a Mac. Lack of optical drive is no problem use an external USB model. Macs do NOT have limited third party software, they did, they don't any more. It always makes me smile when PC users condemn Macs and say they use about three different programs to rip their CDs to the hard drive. On a mac you just tick a box, change the bitrate to AIFF (or Wav) and go. Updates are free, no successful virus attack ever on a mac, though many have tried.

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Trefor Patten wrote:

One thing to bear in mind - when you are told you can get the same performance for less money, it is simply untrue.  You can get the same specification for less money, true. However, just as all 50w amplifiers are not of the same quality, specification is only part of the story. Mac OSX, the operating system is what most people like about Macs, not the design, reliability etc. The only place you can get this is on a Mac. If you want your computer to work for you, rather than spend ages getting it to work, buy a Mac. Lack of optical drive is no problem use an external USB model. Macs do NOT have limited third party software, they did, they don't any more. It always makes me smile when PC users condemn Macs and say they use about three different programs to rip their CDs to the hard drive. On a mac you just tick a box, change the bitrate to AIFF (or Wav) and go. Updates are free, no successful virus attack ever on a mac, though many have tried.

 

ok, so it's posts like this that do not help the apple cause of being all everything works etc...

 

Let's take each point at a time...

Mac OSX, the operating system is what most people like about Macs, not the design, reliability etc - Not true - read back through the posts and most pople are talking about design, and how reliable they are (again untrue, there were terrible problems with some of the imacs) see here for one guys fight with apple to get his machine fixed http://www.seattlerex.com/seattle-rex-vs-apple-the-verdict-is-in/

The only place you can get this is on a Mac - Again false, if you wish to, there's the whole world of hackintosh.  May not a bit of a grey area, but you can run osx on other hardware.

If you want your computer to work for you, rather than spend ages getting it to work, buy a Mac. - Again, untrue and way too vague.  Getting what to work?  most windows based machines "work" out of the box.  What is it that doesn't work?

Lack of optical drive is no problem use an external USB model - Moot point.  Plenty of windows based PC's that don't have optical drives now as well.

Macs do NOT have limited third party software, they did, they don't any more - Depends on what you are wanting to use it for.  There is a hell of a lot more third party software for windows than osx.

It always makes me smile when PC users condemn Macs and say they use about three different programs to rip their CDs to the hard drive. On a mac you just tick a box, change the bitrate to AIFF (or Wav) and go - Erm again untrue.  You can do one a one stop rip in windows media player for example. 

Updates are free - Updates on windows are free too.  Not really sure why you'd say that as a plus point for a osx. 

no successful virus attack ever on a mac, though many have tried. - erm, obviously you missed this.. http://mashable.com/2012/04/05/mac-flashback-trojan/

 

Most of this rhetoric unfortunately comes from smug mac owners who repeat things which are just not true, and it's shame they have kind of been written in folklore now.  the only reason I replied is because the post had so many untruths, they have to be called out I'm afraid.

 

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cheeseboy wrote:

 

The only place you can get this is on a Mac - Again false, if you wish to, there's the whole world of hackintosh.  May not a bit of a grey area, but you can run osx on other hardware.

 

no successful virus attack ever on a mac, though many have tried. - erm, obviously you missed this.. http://mashable.com/2012/04/05/mac-flashback-trojan/

 

 

I had a Hackintosh for a while, mainly because I could not afford a new computer at the time.  It was fun to fettle, but it was nothing like a Mac experience because it was such a ball ache to get everything to work.  Simple things like getting wifi to work was a pain, many people resort to replacing their wifi chips to get around the problem.  So sure, you can run OS X on a PC, but you are not getting the Mac experience.

 

Oh, and a Trojan is not a Virus.  Virus can execute it self.  Trojans rely on the weakest point of any security system, the meat bag that controls it.  Trojans cannot execute without user input.  

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Paul. wrote:

cheeseboy wrote:

 

The only place you can get this is on a Mac - Again false, if you wish to, there's the whole world of hackintosh.  May not a bit of a grey area, but you can run osx on other hardware.

 

no successful virus attack ever on a mac, though many have tried. - erm, obviously you missed this.. http://mashable.com/2012/04/05/mac-flashback-trojan/

 

 

I had a Hackintosh for a while, mainly because I could not afford a new computer at the time.  It was fun to fettle, but it was nothing like a Mac experience because it was such a ball ache to get everything to work.  Simple things like getting wifi to work was a pain, many people resort to replacing their wifi chips to get around the problem.  So sure, you can run OS X on a PC, but you are not getting the Mac experience.

 

Oh, and a Trojan is not a Virus.  Virus can execute it self.  Trojans rely on the weakest point of any security system, the meat bag that controls it.  Trojans cannot execute without user input.  

 

I'm not disagreeing with what you said, I'm disagreeing with the comment that you have to have apple hardware to run osx - you don't.  There is a list of hardware out there that will run hackintosh out of the box as well, so again, I'll go back to the original statement.  Also I may have to dock you points for using the phrase "mac experience" - a personal irk that goes with management speak and suchlike Tongue Laughing out loud

 

regardgless of trojan/malware/anything else you wish to call it, Macs are not immune, which people think they are for some odd reason.

http://macviruscom.wordpress.com/apple-malware-timeline/ 

 

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rjb70stoke wrote:

In my experience the people who "hate" Apple gear are the ones who, desperately want an iPhone, iPad, etc. but cannot afford them, and so stick with the cheaper option.

well, not according to this research...

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it seems like that people are ready to squeeze out the last dime out of its pocket to get something apple because it makes them cool...

i'm doing this from ipad and ios is the most static operating system around...it's has nothing to do with hating, i simply don't like this level of apple control freakness and paranoia about what we can and what we can't do with our devices...

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well, mods i have no business or any other connections with said site, but it looks on topic and dealing with prejudices about how apple were bought by rich people which is clearly not the case most of the time...i'm not living in the uk as well, so any accusations about my "attempt to increase anything to anyone in the uk" is pure bs...it's sad for me to give up of this forum after single post but i didn't expect such level of rigidity...

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It's usually the first posters who post links to suspicious sites. Which site was it?

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