Can someone please explain why imacs and apple products get such negative and horrible comments and reviews.
In my experience the people who "hate" Apple gear are the ones who, desperately want an iPhone, iPad, etc. but cannot afford them, and so stick with the cheaper option.
The Macbook Im typing this on is 6 years old this month, and still runs as well as it did back then. The only thing letting it down these days is the battery, which still lasts a good 2 hours of internet use. In all those years, a work colleague who falls into the hater category, has gone through 4 windows laptops at a minimum of £400 a time. Which compared to the £650 I paid for my Macbook from the refurb store, gives him a spend of £950 more. Not to mention the small matter of transferring all his data etc. 4 times, which Ive only had to do too my NAS drive once.
Buying a Mac, is a little akin to buying a Mercedes. Its a lot of money for something you could get an alternative for much less, but its always desirable, generally reliable, safe, and loses your money a lot slower than the cheaper alternatives.
Buy it and enjoy it.
Micr*s*ft Office / Word / Excel is not included, but there's a free open-source version, NeoOffice, which has frequent updates and opens / saves all Word / Excel docs - and can be downloaded from here
Just to avoid any confusion - You can buy Microsoft Office for Mac same as you would buy for a Windows PC:
I personally found that NeoOffice does not open password protected Excel sheets as "read only". Any way to get round that?
I've never understood why when buying furniture or clothing it's ok to spend extra on something with quality materials, car reviews often criticise certain manufacturers for their poor plastics in the dash and that's considered reasonable, yet when buying consumer electronics we can only compaire clock speed and ram etc and everything else is a waste of money? You may find a machine with the same processor as an iMac for less money, but you won't find something hewn from billet aluminium with precision unknown outside of aeronautics for less money...
Some people won't get excited about design, that's ok. If you do, then it makes no sense to take notice of the opinions of those who don't.
Buying a Mac, is a little akin to buying a Mercedes. Its a lot of money for something you could get an alternative for much less, but its always desirable, generally reliable, safe, and loses your money a lot slower than the cheaper alternatives.
Buy it and enjoy it.
Good analogy. I switched to a MacBook a couple of years ago, and would be reluctant to go back (though have to when working, usually).
Also bought a Merc E-class, which is less per month than a Mondeo (say), so actually cheaper in the long run.
Less keen on the iPhones, as it happens, but am sure I could manage if I could afford one.
My hifi is mostly about 15 years old which bears out the 'costs more and lasts longer' point too.
thanks for the replys everyone going down to pc world at the weekend and im buying the whole bloody lot .imac 27inch,32g ipad4 ,5th generation ipod and apple tv .if i get any smart ass comments.im going to show people the replys on this forum.for my first computer i dont think you can do much better especially when its just for general use and music.
thanks for the replys everyone going down to pc world at the weekend and im buying the whole bloody lot .imac 27inch,32g ipad4 ,5th generation ipod and apple tv .if i get any smart ass comments.im going to show people the replys on this forum.for my first computer i dont think you can do much better especially when its just for general use and music.

sorry 6th replicant when i say bad reviews i dont mean company reviews i just mean people ive spoken too
" im thinking of gettin that new superb looking 27inch i mac"
" dont mate they are s##t"
That will usually be from people giving you Chinese-whispers tales, not first-hand experience. Most people who buy Apple products are perfectly happy with them. In fact in 2011, Cnet reported that a higher percentage of Apple owners were happier wth their computers than PC owners.
The biggest complaint I hear is that "Macs don't have enough games", which seems about as relevant as buying a Veyron and complaining the boot's too small to carry your week's shopping.
Main gear: Mac Mini > HRT Streamer II+ > Marantz PM66 KI > Mission 794
Also cluttering-up the place:
Thorens TD160 no cartridge; Marantz CD63 mkII KI; Technics SL-P777; Cyrus 2 + PSX; Cyrus Tuner; Nakamichi DR-1