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Seeing as no-one really cared about the Euros anyway, the real summer sporting action commenced on Monday!Smile

Surely the real summer sporting action started with the first race at Royal Ascot won by Frankel, probably the best horse ever seen on a flat racing course. 

 

And I'm sure for some the real action will start at the Olympics. YMMV  Smile

Not for me I'm on an aeroplane out of here on the 26th.

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We have just signed Steven Whittaker from Rangers.  Wink

Good luck with him! Hopefully the higher standard will bring the best out in him. He seemed a decent enough chap and he is very versatile but he's not one I'm particularly sad to see go, especially with the wages he was on.

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We have just signed Steven Whittaker from Rangers.  Wink

Good luck with him! Hopefully the higher standard will bring the best out in him. He seemed a decent enough chap and he is very versatile but he's not one I'm particularly sad to see go, especially with the wages he was on.

 

I hope he has taken a wage cut then. Smile

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He was seemingly on 20k a week in Scotland, which I'd say was rather too much! Although he might have been a free agent when he signed, so with no transfer fee to be paid that's maybe why he got a bit more in wages.

The reason I mentioned the higher standard bringing the best out in him is because he would be fantastic one week (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mv26UQV64Vo) and then he'd get the run-around from poor opposition the next. Don't know if it was just playing against poor opponents too often that caused his standards/concentration to slip. He does have talent, but more going forward than going back - much like the last Rangers right back that went to the Premier League (Hutton). 

He might be scared into playing well as he won't want to come back to Scottish football! He wouldn't get the best reception if he played against Rangers again. Probably wouldn't get a very good reception from any Rangers fans he may pass in the street either.

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He was seemingly on 20k a week in Scotland, which I'd say was rather too much! Although he might have been a free agent when he signed, so with no transfer fee to be paid that's maybe why he got a bit more in wages.

The reason I mentioned the higher standard bringing the best out in him is because he would be fantastic one week (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mv26UQV64Vo) and then he'd get the run-around from poor opposition the next. Don't know if it was just playing against poor opponents too often that caused his standards/concentration to slip. He does have talent, but more going forward than going back - much like the last Rangers right back that went to the Premier League (Hutton). 

He might be scared into playing well as he won't want to come back to Scottish football! He wouldn't get the best reception if he played against Rangers again. Probably wouldn't get a very good reception from any Rangers fans he may pass in the street either.

 

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Ah cheers for that!  Have to admit I don't know much about him, other than I have heard his name quite a bit on Sky recently.  Concerns me a tad, that we gave him a four year deal!  Hopefully he will do okay.

 

Cheers again.

 

I heard we might also be signing Butterworth from Barnsley today too.

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 I agree about 'anyone'. Although I would have been interested to see Sampras matching up against him, he would have found breaking serve much harder (it still being the weakest part of Rafa's game on grass) and to pass a truly great volleyer at the net point after point would have presented a different challenge.

Fair point, it's easy to forget how different grass court tennis is to what it was only a few years ago. It would be interesting to see how these base line jockeys coped with a serious serve and volley opponent

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Sorry to be proved right re Watson but I felt any of our women would have it tough once they played an opponent from a higher class.

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I have No.1 Court tickets for tomorrow, so bit of a bonus that Murray-Cilic is on first...

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I have No.1 Court tickets for tomorrow, so bit of a bonus that Murray-Cilic is on first...

Depends on your point of view. Just make sure you swallow some anti-strop pills first. They're all the rage (excuse the pun) when Murray is on court... allegedly.

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Fair point, it's easy to forget how different grass court tennis is to what it was only a few years ago. It would be interesting to see how these base line jockeys coped with a serious serve and volley opponent

Federer used to be a proponent of the serve and volley game on grass.....he must feel with the game as it exists now on grass, that it's not as effective. I seem to remember that they slowed the game down (with the balls) to allow for longer rallies.

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Fair point, it's easy to forget how different grass court tennis is to what it was only a few years ago. It would be interesting to see how these base line jockeys coped with a serious serve and volley opponent

Federer used to be a proponent of the serve and volley game on grass.....he must feel with the game as it exists now on grass, that it's not as effective. I seem to remember that they slowed the game down (with the balls) to allow for longer rallies.

 

Slowed down in a number of ways IIRC: fluffier balls (ooh-er), less inflated balls and longer / different grass. The change over 10 years is remarkable - bassliners often didn't even come to Wimbledon and Agassi's success was astounding. Now there is no chance of success with a serve and volley game, and even players who are extremely good volleyers (Federer, Murray) may easily go the whole game without serve-volleying. 

 

If this had left us with a series of Jim Couriers and Michael Changs it would have been awful. We are truly blessed to have the top four that we do, plus Del Potro, Tsonga, Ferrer and others  Smile

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gel wrote:

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He was seemingly on 20k a week in Scotland, which I'd say was rather too much! Although he might have been a free agent when he signed, so with no transfer fee to be paid that's maybe why he got a bit more in wages.

The reason I mentioned the higher standard bringing the best out in him is because he would be fantastic one week (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mv26UQV64Vo) and then he'd get the run-around from poor opposition the next. Don't know if it was just playing against poor opponents too often that caused his standards/concentration to slip. He does have talent, but more going forward than going back - much like the last Rangers right back that went to the Premier League (Hutton). 

He might be scared into playing well as he won't want to come back to Scottish football! He wouldn't get the best reception if he played against Rangers again. Probably wouldn't get a very good reception from any Rangers fans he may pass in the street either.

 

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Ah cheers for that!  Have to admit I don't know much about him, other than I have heard his name quite a bit on Sky recently.  Concerns me a tad, that we gave him a four year deal!  Hopefully he will do okay.

 

Cheers again.

 

I heard we might also be signing Butterworth from Barnsley today too.

 

Hi guys, I'm going to resurrect the NCFC thread to continue this!  Smile

 

http://www.whathifi.com/forum/off-topic-and-miscellaneous/norwich-city?page=14#comment-2658979

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John Duncan wrote:

I have No.1 Court tickets for tomorrow, so bit of a bonus that Murray-Cilic is on first...

 

Lucky man, enjoy  Smile I've only been once many years ago, but it was an absolutely fantastic day.

 

Don't forget, it's a 12 noon start!  Wink

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Murray - final for me now, can't seeing him winning though, unless the other top two go out.

 

 

I think this is probably right. I was worried by his performance against Baghdatis, I hadn't seen him so lacking in penetration for several years, against the top 3 he would have taken a beating. Considering what a good returner he is, he was standing so deep and chipping back in, reminiscent of Henman when he was on the back foot. Remarkably honest and insightful interview afterwards tho, about his nerves and his early low level.

 

Cilic should end up easy enough, but he'll have to play very well to beat any of Ferrer / Del Potro / Tsonga. Having seen Djokovic tomorrow, it's hard to see anyone beating him. His power and accuracy are unremitting and the pace he gets on returns from difficult positions is like Nadal at his best.

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Nice to think a Brit will reach a final. Can't see it happening. Like 'Toothless Tim', always the nearly men. If Murray reaches the final I'll eat the cat.

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Well he's reached finals of slams several other times, so I think he will at Wimbledon, maybe this year, maybe one of the next two.

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