Pretty ... and pretty proud of it
After squandering millions of taxpayers money, umpteen unsuccessful attempts at extraditing Abu Qatada to Jordan not to mention a taxpayers trip to said country she has, in my opinion, completely failed the people of Great Britain. More concerned with her personal face saving battle against the courts Theresa May should loose her job with immediate effect. - Worse, she has now set a dangerous presedence for any further, similar cases, making it vastly more difficult to extradite and giving subjects almost unlimited legal support to fight any decisions. - The French just put them on a plane, instead prefering to solve any european or otherwise court issues afterwards ... if at all. A much better solution surely.
So you're suggesting the Home Secretary should lose her job for following the rule of law? Interesting...
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I don't really know the full ins and outs of it, but I do find it absurd that radical hate-preachers (of any religious denomination) can't be dispatched quickly with a one-way ticket back to their homeland. If the law prevents that, then the law needs changing. Look how long it took us to get shot of Abu Hansa. It was a laughing stock. In fact did he ever go, or is he still in the UK somewhere, claiming state handouts (sorry, 'benefit entitlements') and waiting for the outcome of yet another appeal...
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The point of law being used by Qatada (wish that was allowed in Scrabble...) is that if he's extradited to Jordan he'll face trial using evidence gained by torture, which is against European law, so we don't have the choice of repealing it.
No, he's gone.
I don't want to live in a country where the state can ignore the law whenever they feel like it.
Reminds me of Thomas More in "A Man For All Seasons" ...
Margaret More: Father, that man's bad.
Sir Thomas More: There's no law against that.
William Roper: There is: God's law.
Sir Thomas More: Then God can arrest him.
William Roper: So, now you give the Devil the benefit of law!
Sir Thomas More: Yes! What would you do? Cut a great road through the law to get after the Devil?
William Roper: Yes, I'd cut down every law in England to do that!
Sir Thomas More: Oh? And when the last law was down, and the Devil turned 'round on you, where would you hide, Roper, the laws all being flat? This country is planted thick with laws, from coast to coast, Man's laws, not God's! And if you cut them down, and you're just the man to do it, do you really think you could stand upright in the winds that would blow then? Yes, I'd give the Devil benefit of law, for my own safety's sake!
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We 'cut down' laws (making exceptions to get at 'bogey men' like Abu Qatada) at our peril.
Precisely because we "G-A-S" about what happens to ourselves under the same laws.
Theresa May has much to answer for, including crimes against fashion, but abiding by law that protects human rights isn't one of them.
Does this mean I like Qatada or subscribe to the views he espouses? Absolutely not.
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There's two rather different points. If the complaint is that Theresa May pursued the case in court rather than summarily deporting him, then that's right wing, undemocratic madness.
If the complaint is that she wasted a fortune of public money (THREE QCs for the last case IIRC) purely to portray a public image when she knew she was doomed to fail, then the point is well made.
One could similarly claim that the top prosecuting QC in the country is used for political reasons to prosecute a straightforward perverting the course of justice case (Huhne and Pryce) when increasingly inadequate and insufficient counsel are used to prosecute child murders and the like. At the same time, Chris Grayling is conducting a sham consultation on legal aid changes which will never be debated in parliament, which will prevent people choosing a solicitor, which will see solicitors replaced with G4S and Tesco and which will see the destruction of the independent bar.
If anyone's interested in the latter point, please consider signing this petition: http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/48628
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Some of the less publicised changes the government makes (regardless blue or red) are quite frankly astonishing.
Although hey, am sure those forwarding the bill get nice backhanders from g4s and the like
I know you love to cause a stir but this shows that you have a shallow and, if you had influence, dangerous understanding of this situation and the rule of law.
To add to what others have said, I understand that the UK has secured agreement for the LAW to be changed in Jordon that should allow the lawful extradition of this piece of edited. The proposals are about to go before the Jordanian Parliament and are expected to be passed.
Perhaps if Mr Bliar had considered the ramifications of signing the European Convention on Human Rights, instead of just continuing to be guided by the principles, then a large number of vexatious legal problems could have been avoided.
The situation is a sick joke but will not be sorted out by breaking international and sovereign law.
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