Have your say & ask the experts!

What would you test?

38 replies [Last post]
John Duncan
John Duncan's picture
Offline
Joined: 8 Jan 2008
Posts: 20433


So, whilst I have upset Clare elsewhere with attention-grabbing headlines and is now unlikely to happen - if I were to get a day in the test rooms, I think there should be an 'angle' (as opposed to just sitting and listening to their BFO stereo all day). Got any ideas? High end player or high end speakers - which is best? CD versus Mac 'n' DAC? Mac vs PC*?

Or would you just listen to the BFO stereo all day?

*this one was a lie

__________________

CA StreamMagic 6  |  CA 751BD  |  CA 651A  |  PMC DB1i

Moderator. mail: john.duncan.whf at the mail of g dot com

timwileman
timwileman's picture
Offline
Joined: 19 Mar 2008
Posts: 1749
Re: What would you test?

vanmans TV cleaning techniques Smile


John Duncan
John Duncan's picture
Offline
Joined: 8 Jan 2008
Posts: 20433
Re: What would you test?
timwileman:
I was born with a plastic spoon in my mouth



Are you sure you didn't imagine it?

__________________

CA StreamMagic 6  |  CA 751BD  |  CA 651A  |  PMC DB1i

Moderator. mail: john.duncan.whf at the mail of g dot com

timwileman
timwileman's picture
Offline
Joined: 19 Mar 2008
Posts: 1749
Re: What would you test?
JohnDuncan:

timwileman:
I was born with a plastic spoon in my mouth



Are you sure you didn't imagine it?



possibly or it could have been silver...or elsewhere!! Smile
Gerrardasnails
Gerrardasnails's picture
Offline
Joined: 6 Sep 2007
Posts: 6398
Re: What would you test?
JohnDuncan:
So, whilst I have upset Clare elsewhere with attention-grabbing headlines and is now unlikely to happen - if I were to get a day in the test rooms, I think there should be an 'angle' (as opposed to just sitting and listening to their BFO stereo all day). Got any ideas? High end player or high end speakers - which is best? CD versus Mac 'n' DAC? Mac vs PC*?

Or would you just listen to the BFO stereo all day?

*this one was a lie



I would watch/listen to a film using one of those silly priced projectors connected to the Denon A1-HD and the Monitor Audio Platinum AV system. In the afternoon, I would like to listen to some cd's using the Scarlatti cd player (the three boxed jobbie) and maybe a Plinius amplification and for speakers maybe the latest Quad ESL-2905 speakers. I'm sure they'd have all that kit just lying around!
__________________

Screen - Samsung UE46D8000.  Sources - Dell Zino HD 410; Sky HD; Sony BDP S550; Wyred 4 Sound DAC1.  Amps - Yamaha RX-A3010; SimAudio Moon I-3 RS.  Speakers - Vienna Acoustics Mozart Grand; Vienna Acoustics Waltz Grand centre; Proficient Audio W690 rears; Monitor Audio RSW12.  Cables - Van Damme Blue 4mm speaker cable; Townsend DCT300 and Atlas Voyager interconnects; Van den Hul Optocoupler.

John Duncan
John Duncan's picture
Offline
Joined: 8 Jan 2008
Posts: 20433
Re: What would you test?


So no 'test' as such? Just watch and listen and report back on what high end really is?

__________________

CA StreamMagic 6  |  CA 751BD  |  CA 651A  |  PMC DB1i

Moderator. mail: john.duncan.whf at the mail of g dot com

timwileman
timwileman's picture
Offline
Joined: 19 Mar 2008
Posts: 1749
Re: What would you test?

i guess in your shoes i would test the primare kit you have with various speakers/cables and combinations etc... great chance to really take you stuff for a test drive with loads of kit


or


if not so happy with your kit then listen to arcam all day ha ha !

fatboyslimfast
fatboyslimfast's picture
Offline
Joined: 10 Jan 2008
Posts: 2306
Re: What would you test?

I would go for a top CD-combo vs top Vinyl combo vs 24/96 flac/mac, all through the same active pre/power and speakers setup.

To get a definitive "which format is best".

Well, definitive for this year anyway...Smile

__________________

Sources: Technics SL1210Mk2 with Denon DL110/AT-95E, Mac Mini, Virgin V+.

Amplification: Cyrus 2.

Speakers: Mordaunt Short MS20i Pearls with Fisual Super Pearl 2.5mm cable.

Other kit: More than I should have. My loft is creaking.

Andrew Everard
Andrew Everard's picture
Online
Joined: 30 May 2007
Posts: 29043
Re: What would you test?

But that wouldn't give you a definitive answer on the formats, just how the various pieces of equipment selected performed with their formats of choice.

__________________

Consulting Editor, What Hi-Fi? Sound and Vision/whathifi.com  Audio Editor, Gramophone

fatboyslimfast
fatboyslimfast's picture
Offline
Joined: 10 Jan 2008
Posts: 2306
Re: What would you test?

Boo... so how would you conduct the ultimate "which format is best" test Andrew...or is any such test just folly?

__________________

Sources: Technics SL1210Mk2 with Denon DL110/AT-95E, Mac Mini, Virgin V+.

Amplification: Cyrus 2.

Speakers: Mordaunt Short MS20i Pearls with Fisual Super Pearl 2.5mm cable.

Other kit: More than I should have. My loft is creaking.

Andrew Everard
Andrew Everard's picture
Online
Joined: 30 May 2007
Posts: 29043
Re: What would you test?

Only possible if there is a single piece of equipment capable of handling all the formats under investigation, thus eliminating as many variables as possible

__________________

Consulting Editor, What Hi-Fi? Sound and Vision/whathifi.com  Audio Editor, Gramophone

John Duncan
John Duncan's picture
Offline
Joined: 8 Jan 2008
Posts: 20433
Re: What would you test?


Well I'd say it wasn't the format per se but the format and player, so i think it's quite valid, though I wouldn't bother with the vinyl, since I think that's a different conversation to the CD vs FLAC/MAC/DAC one. (Can I copyright that?)

Personally, I want to try a grand's worth of interconnect.......

__________________

CA StreamMagic 6  |  CA 751BD  |  CA 651A  |  PMC DB1i

Moderator. mail: john.duncan.whf at the mail of g dot com

Gerrardasnails
Gerrardasnails's picture
Offline
Joined: 6 Sep 2007
Posts: 6398
Re: What would you test?
JohnDuncan:
So no 'test' as such? Just watch and listen and report back on what high end really is?



It would be a test of how good high end really is.
__________________

Screen - Samsung UE46D8000.  Sources - Dell Zino HD 410; Sky HD; Sony BDP S550; Wyred 4 Sound DAC1.  Amps - Yamaha RX-A3010; SimAudio Moon I-3 RS.  Speakers - Vienna Acoustics Mozart Grand; Vienna Acoustics Waltz Grand centre; Proficient Audio W690 rears; Monitor Audio RSW12.  Cables - Van Damme Blue 4mm speaker cable; Townsend DCT300 and Atlas Voyager interconnects; Van den Hul Optocoupler.

John Duncan
John Duncan's picture
Offline
Joined: 8 Jan 2008
Posts: 20433
Re: What would you test?


To be honest, that's what I'd be looking for - play some of my favourite music on a 'reference' system and see if it exhibits the same problems I've been trying to get rid of with each successive upgrade. If it does, then I won't have to bother any more Big Smile

__________________

CA StreamMagic 6  |  CA 751BD  |  CA 651A  |  PMC DB1i

Moderator. mail: john.duncan.whf at the mail of g dot com

fatboyslimfast
fatboyslimfast's picture
Offline
Joined: 10 Jan 2008
Posts: 2306
Re: What would you test?
Andrew Everard:
Only possible if there is a single piece of equipment capable of handling all the formats under investigation, thus eliminating as many variables as possible



Well, since my turntable only does either 33 or 45, then I suppose trying to get it to spin at 500+ rpm could be a little tricky.

And try as I might, I can't find a Sumiko Laser cartridge to go on the end of the tonearm...Smile
__________________

Sources: Technics SL1210Mk2 with Denon DL110/AT-95E, Mac Mini, Virgin V+.

Amplification: Cyrus 2.

Speakers: Mordaunt Short MS20i Pearls with Fisual Super Pearl 2.5mm cable.

Other kit: More than I should have. My loft is creaking.

Solomon1
Solomon1's picture
Offline
Joined: 7 Aug 2007
Posts: 503
Re: What would you test?
JohnDuncan:
So, whilst I have upset Clare elsewhere with attention-grabbing headlines and is now unlikely to happen - if I were to get a day in the test rooms, I think there should be an 'angle' (as opposed to just sitting and listening to their BFO stereo all day). Got any ideas? High end player or high end speakers - which is best? CD versus Mac 'n' DAC? Mac vs PC*?

Or would you just listen to the BFO stereo all day?

*this one was a lie



Test active monitors from the likes of pmc and avi against their passive counterparts. Then note at which point, $$$? amp, the passive design gets to the same level of performance.
Same with NAS/mac/dac against best buy cd-players.
I would like to conduct the test with a group consisting of what hifi prof. reviewers and subscribers- all blindfolded for the occasion.