Thirty years is still a long time to carry a pretty substantial debt, especially if your degree isn't tailored to the corporate world or legal professions.
Not sure what you mean. In what way does the type of degree influence how long thirty years is to carry a debt?
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I'm talking about a degree's earning potential. If your degree costs more, you're more likely to choose a subject that leads to a lucrative (and perhaps less fulfilling) career. (Again, I'm not suggesting that passion for a subject and earning potential are mutually exclusive, but there's already a general shrinking of the Humanities in UK universities, following trends in the US.)
In other words, the more you ultimately earn, the more easily you can pay back your student debt. You'll earn more as a legal executive than as an English Literature teacher.
Thirty years is always thirty years, but you'll likely be student debt-free well before then as a lawyer.
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Yes, but this change in career choices, if it happens/is happening, is another symptom of the perception that there is this huge great debt that must be paid off rapidly. I just think its a none-issue.
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I'd argue that the tuition fee rise can't be a non-issue if it has an effect (as it clearly does) on applications and admissions patterns and the courses universities are ultimately able to offer.
Can someone please explain to me why you would do a degree knowing that career is not well paid, is that not then called a hobby?
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But if people are making those decisions, they are, as I said, doing so not understanding that the loan repayment will barely touch them. Basically, I think folk have missunderstood things and, if they knew that, they'd see it as the none issue it is.
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Folk do degrees for all kinds of reasons. I didn't do mine with a career in mind, and many study very...er...unvocational subjects like politics then do very well.
aarrhh makes sense, ok then ill carry on doing my stressful job and paying taxes for others to be happy!
That's fine but for what reason should my taxes go towards paying for your degree. Honestly not trying to start an argument I just work for money, nothing else, plenty of other jobs I could do and enjoy more but I can't afford to do them.
Because I may one day accomplish great things. Lots of science is carried out speculatively, and sometimes good things come of it.
I am finding hard to find a job and a career path. I really don't know what to do at the moment. I suppose I just have to keep applying and see what happens. Employers don't seem interested in degrees these days, well they are interested but you have to have the right experience too, and having that right experience they talk about is virtually impossible unless you have done the job before!
There also seems very few jobs available, how do you guys apply for work, do you get help from someone? Get help from somewhere? The best place seems to be people's actual websites. I want to work in Milton Keynes but there are very few if not any graduate careers here. What is someone like me suppose to do? In that I have a Business Studies degree what career path should I follow? University's I think are bad here in that they don't prepare you for the job world. What places could someone like me get help from? Thanks. I have been doing quite a bit but now seem to have hit a dead end, and I just thought someone might have some ideas? Cheers.
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Is somewhere like a library helpful? What help is there?
After I finish work I like to know there is a wealth of other things to enjoy, listen to, watch, read, admire, engage my mind etc.
Literature, art, film, music, history, archeology, photography, good food etc. Others might enjoy poetry or philosophy or sports or drama.
Our nation actually takes a lot of pride in our achievements in many such fields of endeavour. It's good to live within a rich and vibrant culture where not everyone adding to it is expected to be driven purely by profits or salaries.
Why shouldn't some of our taxes should go towards educating and enabling those with the talent to increase our sum total of all knowledge and skills, including those that don't have an obvious 'bottom line' but make our world more interesting and enjoyable nonetheless?
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Our nation actually takes a lot of pride in our achievements in many such fields of endeavour.
I agree with everything you say, apart from the last sentence. Ask any Humanities department head if they're recruiting as staff retire and the answer will almost certainly be "no."
As evidenced by some contributions to this thread, there's a tide of opinion that all things should be reduced to an economic equation and only have value on such terms.
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