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Just wondering if any of you have heard the remake of War of the Worlds and are able to comment on whether its any better than the original.

Rich

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No, I nearly bought it at the weekend and then thought there's a minute chance that someone may buy it for me for Christmas, so I didn't. I did hear one of Barlow's parts on the radio a while back and to be honest there was so much processing on his vocal that I was struggling to tell the difference between his voice and Justin Heywood's original.

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Forever autumn with Barlow was constantly played on radio 2 for a while. It sounded like lift music in comparison to the original. 

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Listened to an interview with Jeff Wayne on R2 a few weeks back and he explained that the stage version was longer than the original, so the remake is also longer. Exactly whats been added I don't know.

I do know that I'ld be quite disappointed if it wasn't at least as good as the original. Can't imagine anyone other than Richard Burton doing the narration.

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I enjoy the sacd original.I would not buy a newer copy

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Yes, I've never been a huge fan of Liam Neeson if I'm honest.

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love the orignal album

liam neeson not a patch on richard burton

actually all the songs sound weird

but do like the extra bits of dialogue added though

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Well comments so far aren't really making me want to add it to my last minute list of stuff to get me. Maybe I should just play the original again and enjoy it as I always do.

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The problem is...we all grew up (literally or metaphorically) with the original.  It's 'our' definitive version. I've heard the new version on Spotify, and yes, I prefer the original.

But there are people out there who are destined to see WotW for the first time in the upcoming stage shows and who will buy this album. This new version will be their definitive version.  Show them the old one and they'll probably prefer this.

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theraaaven wrote:

liam neeson not a patch on richard burton

To my ears I have not heard a finer spoken voice than Richard Burton's in my 54 years, and looking at the line up for the re-visited WOTW I have no intention of listening to it.

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Sizzers wrote:

theraaaven wrote:

liam neeson not a patch on richard burton

To my ears I have not heard a finer spoken voice than Richard Burton's in my 54 years

 

Having just switched on an episode of The World At War, I'd have to say Laurence Olivier tops him, but I agree with the sentiment. 

 

Having said that, I've been to the stage show before (when there was an animated Burton) and it's fantastic; if a blu ray ever comes out I will probably buy it, whoever the cast happens to be. No interest in a remake CD tho. 

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I turned it off after 2 minutes - sounds too much like the Sky Sports News theme music or any other generic dramatic synth/string rubbish you hear on the TV these days.

The original scared the hell out of me when I was a kid and it still sounds creepy now so thats the only one i'll ever listen to - that or the live recording from the Wembley show on the first run with Russell Watson as the Parson.

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My Son bought wotw 2 so as to compair the 2 If you have wotw then I wouldn't get wotw 2 the story has more detail the vocals don't have the same immotion and the music is a bit tecno I am sure some one hearing it for the first time will love it its not that bad the recording is good 3d sound stage etc:) Smile

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I saw Jeff Waynes Musical Vesion of the War of the Worlds live at the Manchester Arena earlier this month - it was brilliant.  I have owned the CD of the original version of the album since its release and found the newer, longer version so much better in many ways that I bought the new version of the album two days later.  The storyline was still there (but longer and updated), the original score was still there, but enhanced and better.

Its like a DVD / Blu Ray and the subsequently released "Directors Cut" or the "Extended Version" - you either enjoy the original version or the updated one - simples

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TheCaptain wrote:

I saw Jeff Waynes Musical Vesion of the War of the Worlds live at the Manchester Arena earlier this month - it was brilliant.  I have owned the CD of the original version of the album since its release and found the newer, longer version so much better in many ways that I bought the new version of the album two days later.  The storyline was still there (but longer and updated), the original score was still there, but enhanced and better.

Its like a DVD / Blu Ray and the subsequently released "Directors Cut" or the "Extended Version" - you either enjoy the original version or the updated one - simples

 

I saw it in Liverpool earlier this month & did a little review on vinylengine:

Review of "Jeff Waynes Musical Version of The War Of The Worlds: The New Generation, Alive On Stage", Liverpool Echo Arena, Saturday 1st December 2012

 I'm not so brilliant at this stuff so forgive me for the use of clichés etc.

I did a "bit" of preparation throughout the day, I listened to the original LP, watched the DVD of the 2006 Wembley show and then on the way to the show (it's not really a gig as such) I listened to the 2005 remaster in the car. Actually I was in danger of being TWOTW'd out by the time I rocked up at the Echo Arena....

I had a brilliant seat, Central block, 8 rows back from the front & smack in the middle of the row so my view was superb.

 The show itself is very impressive, excellent lighting design & the Martian Fighting Machine firing a real flame Heat Ray into the audience is pretty attention grabbing! You can actually feel the heat... There is a 100 ft screen behind the musicians which shows the CGI "movie". Some of the CGI looks a little low budget TBH, compared to the likes of full Hollywood productions, but it works well and the period Victorian clips help set the mood nicely.

 Liam Neeson is no Richard Burton. His voice doesn't have anywhere near the same allure & he doesn't quite have the gravitas of Burton. Not to say it's a poor vocal performance, very far from it. If you had never heard the Burton readings, then Neesons would be perfectly acceptable. It's a case of having a very hard act to follow. However, the Hologram is far superior. Burtons was a cobbled together effort at best, and Neeson, being actually alive, was able to produce a far more animated performance & his presence is able to interact with the performers on stage. Once you are able to disregard the semi-transparent screen he is projected onto, you could almost believe he is there. Also he reads more excerpts from the novel & this is a good thing.

The musicianship is exemplary as you would expect from the likes of Chris Spedding & Herbie Flowers for the "rock" side of the ensemble, the Black Smoke Band. The classical side: the ULLAdubULLA strings, contain several British Philharmonic Orchestra members, and it shows, they are tremendous. The outstanding thing for me is how Spedding & the film of the Heat Ray work together to give the impression that the Heat Ray is actually firing away in time to the new guitar solo on "Horsell Common & The Heat Ray", a kind of deadly Martian air guitar... quite astounding.

The Vocalists are again, excellent:

 Marty Pellow (Wet Wet Wet) as The Sung Thoughts of the Journalist really does a superb job on Forever Autumn. I had read a review of the first show of the tour at Dublin that said he seemed a bit nervous/subdued, but he's certainly got over the first night nerves. I suppose Justin Hayward is a pretty hard at to follow so it's understandable he had a hesitant start.

Will Stapleton (from a band called Jettblack, who I have to admit, I've never heard of)as The Voice Of Humanity has a superb voice that suited "Thunderchild" perfectly, quite a good stage presence too.

Jason Donovan as Parson Nathaniel is excellent, his voice doesn't really have the power of Phil Lynott, but it does have a certain refinement that you'd expect from a Home Counties parson. He does "unhinged" in a very convincing manner too..

Kerry Ellis as Beth, Parson Nathanials Wife, is nothing short of superb, easily the equal of Julie Covington.

 Ricky Wilson (from The Kaiser Chiefs) puts in a very energetic & creditable performance as the Artilleryman, the only small criticism would be he doesn't quite have the vocal range of David Essex on Brave New World, but he makes up for it in power & enthusiasm.

As for the music itself, well first of all I'll never be able to listen to any version at home again & be able to re-create the sheer scale of the live show, even at driver destroying levels. As I drove home I really cranked the car system up & it was a pale imitation at best, even though when I did the same on the way to the show I thought that I was getting a fair idea of what I was about to experience... Serves me right for having a mere 2 amplifiers & subwoofers I suppose.

 The sound is immense, with truly scary, gut busting bass at times. At the beginning they had a bit too much sibilance on Neesons Hologram, but soon sorted that out.

 It's pretty pointless trying to compare a live show with any recorded version, although I have to say this was the tightest set of musicians I have ever heard live. I could detect some differences in the arrangement, all for the better. there are more readings from the novel & I can only really sum it up as more of all the good bits, and the best bit of all is the "Heat Ray" solo, which is worth buying the new album for all by itself, IMHO.

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