unclear movie endings...
Spoiler alert. But it seems a bit late for that......
Watched The Departed again last night. Even better than I remembered it to be so, bonus!
Mark Wallberg killed the Matt Damon character because he had figured out that he was the plant.
What is not clear is how he figured it out. Simple deduction, or more likely because of what was in the envelope.
The rat is indeed just a symbol.
What is missing in the remake from the original that is relevant on this site is that in the original, the "Matt Damon" character is really into hi-fi. Nodded to in the re-make by the shot of the Mackintosh rack when she is listening to the headphones.
maxflinn:actually that does make sense, but walburg would be guessing damon was the rat wouldnt he?, hmmm, well he didnt like him anyway, so i guess thats good enough reason to kill him on its own, after all, it is the movies
hmtb:In the Departed, I thought that Mark Wahlberg's character killed Matt Damon's for retribution. Matt Damon was the mole who got both Mark's boss and Leo's character killed. The rat would, I suppose, be representative of Matt Damon's persona throughout the film as someone who is dishonest and betrays his police colleagues by passing on information to his gangster friends.
I didn't understand Mullholland Drive in the slightest. Empire gave it 5 stars - maybe they didn't understand it either, but given the reputation of the director, just assumed it was a masterpiece. Either that, or it actually is.
Wahlberg's character was not guessing - Matt Damon's girlfriend was given the info that he was a rat by Leo DiCaprio on blank CDs ( interestingly disguised as Rolling Stones CDs - which was Scorsese's next film). Instructions had been left by Dicaprio to pass this info on to Wahlberg in the event of his death. Were you not paying any attention!!
Then there's the "umm, so is that it, then..?"-type ending, aka films "with a beginning, a (very long) middle and, er, no ending".
The epitome of which has to be No Country for Old Men? ![]()
No country was an excellent film any other way just wouldn't have been right!
Back to the OP - Max I find that there is a relationship between Guinness consumption and the comprehension of some films!
On a serious note, I find myself watching all kinds of stuff I would not normally bother with when on a long flight, I recently watched shutter island (great acting but limp story), Ghost Writer (now that's a "oh is that it" ending) and the very disappointing Alic in Wonderland, and I'm a fan of Johny Depp, though who isn't.
not with me theres not, there is a definate relationship between guiness consumption and good music, ok, perceived good music, but tea is the order of the day when movies are playing, although in the case of mulholland drive, guiness may have been more helpfulSteveR750:No country was an excellent film any other way just wouldn't have been right!
Back to the OP - Max I find that there is a relationship between Guinness consumption and the comprehension of some films!
On a serious note, I find myself watching all kinds of stuff I would not normally bother with when on a long flight, I recently watched shutter island (great acting but limp story), Ghost Writer (now that's a "oh is that it" ending) and the very disappointing Alic in Wonderland, and I'm a fan of Johny Depp, though who isn't.
6th.replicant:Then there's the "umm, so is that it, then..?"-type ending, aka films "with a beginning, a (very long) middle and, er, no ending".
The epitome of which has to be No Country for Old Men?
No Country For Old Men had an adequate ending. The bad guy got his way and got away...did you really expect Tommy Lee to fight such a ruthless killer and win? Both went there seperate ways and the killer got what was rightfully his anyway.
Clare Newsome:But seriously - it's a foolish person that watches any David Lynch movie expecting it to be 'normal'.![]()
And then there's "The Straight Story". David Lynch's only "U" certificate film I think and it's about an elderly guy called Alvin Straight, with health problems and whose brother has a stroke, but lives 300 miles away. Alvin's car packs up and he makes the trip by an old John Deere tractor. The film's genius is in the story - it's just that: a straight story. And a very good one too.
Part of me likes to think that Lynch knew this, played it as it was without all the sub-plots of his other films and riffed with the play on words. It worked a treat IMO. One of my favourite films and a great cast too: Richard Farnsworth, Sissy Spacek and Harry Dean Stanton with a cameo.
the record spot:And then there's "The Straight Story".
Indeed there is. No tricks, no nonsense, no Nolan.
But then I just discovered i missed something in the departed, and i liked that one.
I give up on film.
Until The Exorcist comes out on BluRay.
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Mulholland Drive is a bloomin masterpiece (and not because Naomi Watts gets naked). It helps to know the first hour and fifty minutes is a dream (until the Cowboy character says "time to wake up pretty girl"), while the last twenty minutes is set in a fragmented (i.e. slightly insane but very gritty) reality. It's about Naomi Watts' character(s)' efforts to assuage a devastating sense of guilt and repress traumatic memories. Lynch's best, I think, and a rare example of cinematic art.
Anyone confused/frustrated by the film should check out the "Lost on Mulholland Drive" website...