The Dark Knight Rises - Brilliant film!!! (Spoiler alert)

Not with Nolan at the helm (thank goodness). He's publicly stated that was the last of the trilogy. I hope the studio can leave it that way (at least for a few years anyway).

Bah, humbug prof... the movies are what escapism are all about... roll on the next three I say... superb movies !

Indeed. His wife an dproducer has also stated it's the last, and Bale has stated he would chain himself up and not go to work if there's a Robin in any of Nolan's Batman films* so, with this one, they only just kept their leading man.

Saying that, to me, the implication was clearly that he was supposed, if anything, to become, well, not Robin.

*Though he has siad that he wouldn't rule out another if Nolan came to him with a good idea.

You need to compare them really, and see what the BBFC may have awarded the higher ratings for. The second Burton film contains some swearing I think (though didnt TDKR have more than Nolan's other Batman films?), a nose biting scene, and a pun about the female anatomy. Hey maybe I'm getting old too.

In the last few years I've seen a couple of things in 12 certificate films that I thought were a bit much in a 12, usually to do with mild "gore". The thing the monk wears on his leg in The Da Vinci Code was one. I forget the other(.

That's the thing I guess - it's some kind of messed up world we live in where it's okay for kids to see a sociopath dressed as a clown kill and maim people (all presented in a very distrubing and realistic manner), but if he were to say the f word, then my god, won't someone think of the children!!

Yes indeed prof and the general thinking of these same parents is that they don't think for one minute that the kiddies ever swear themselves      :rofl:

Hear swearing in a movie wow ! it's tantamount to some of the parents  to watching someone shooting-up.

TDKR was not really for kiddies yet there were a good few in watching it when I was.... some parents eh ?

I went to see it tonight. To be honest I didn't think there was anything that would have distresed children over twelve.

Of course children under twelve can get in if accompanied by a parent/guardian, but at least the certificate indicates that it isn't suitable for younger children. I think under twelves would more likely get bored than scared. It's a long, dialogue heavy film (and carrying a little too much weight for its own good in my view).

I preferred Hardy's Bane to Ledger's showier performance as The Joker. When I watched TDK again I was surprised at how hammy Ledger seemed. I appreciate that the character had "a taste for theatrics," but the performance screamed "look at me and my acting!"

I won't get on to the film's politics (that would doubtless irritate other forum members). At least having seen it I can contribute without fear that bigboss will kick me off the thread...

I'm not Bane you know.

No, but you have an equally intimidating avatar!

Also, by my recollection, wasn't the original Burton Batman film the BBFC's first 12 (latterly 12A) classification. Strange that the Blu-rays are rated 15, as the 12A certificate has been in operation for UK home video releases for some time...

Speaking of the Joke, this Tom Waits interview was allegedly the inspiration for Heath Ledger's Joker.  Skip in to about 1:30, the mannerisms and voice is uncanny!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCSc6E4yG9s

On the subject of Joker vs Bane... Its a toughie, for the first half of the film I would have said Bane > Joker, but by the end of the film I had changed my mind.  

Thanks, I didn't know that...

The similarities are indeed remarkable.

That's remarkable! I should watch TDK again. 

I agree with what you say re: Bane vs Joker. They should not have shown Bane the way they did when the mystery unravelled.

It seems that Tom Hardy also sought inspiration for his Batman villain's voice

Someone said to me they thought Ledger was doing Hoffman's voice from Midnight Cowboy. Personally I thought there was more to it.