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I really didn't like Inception. And I feel we were promised more with this film than we got.

Indeed, I found Inception the most tedious film Nolan's been involved with.

Anyone that's studied psychology 101 would consider this one of the most laughable efforts at pop psychology ever commited to script. And for the record, it's "unconscious" rather than "subconscious..." 

I studied Psychology as part of my training. I thought Inception was based around Carl Gustav Jung's seven major archetypal characters. The entire film might actually just be Dom Cobb's dream and that all of the main characters in it were just different segments of himself that had to concoct an elaborate mission just so he could reach some level of catharsis within himself. When the mission was completed, he was finally able to confront his demons and he was granted the clarity to finally see his children's faces in the end because his guilt had finally been resolved amongst his archetypes.

Of course, there will be disagreements amongst people as to how they view the film. Even Carl Gustav Jung had his disagreements with Sigmund Freud.

Indeed, I've encountered several interpretations of Inception. I edit a peer reviewed journal and have worked through a few submissions on this film, including Jungian and Althusserian readings. And there's certainly an ambiguity to the ending. 

Nevertheless, the film didn't engage me and I couldn't identify with the protagonist in a way I found plausible. I also thought the concept of dream infiltration quite absurd. Of course, if the whole narrative's a dream that would perhaps negate that particular concern, but even then there's a suggestion that Cobb is trappped in a dream as a consequence of his profession (dream infiltration). Again, the filmmakers played with tenuous ideas in such self important ways as to render the film irritating. That's my view. Your view differs. It's perfectly fine to hold opposing views.

Sorry, it wasn't my intention to patronise. I posted in response to your suggestion that I might not have understood Inception

Trolling, as I understand it, would be contributing to a forum with no purpose beyond antogonism. That wasn't my intention. I thought it would be OK to express views on films directed by Nolan on a thread discussing his latest film. As I acknowledged above, I haven't seen The Dark Knight Rises, but have seen every other film listed in my post.     

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That's the thing about Psychology, isn't it......there's no black or white. Everything's grey! Smile

Hopefully, the thread will come back on track now. 

 

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That's the thing about Psychology, isn't it......there's no black or white. Everything's grey! Smile

Hopefully, the thread will come back on track now. 

 

Oh, so now I'm responsible for derailing the thread.

You should have stated from the outset that only views commensurate with your own were allowed!  excellent!

Only Nolan-worship permitted hereafter, which means I'll have to duck out...

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strapped for cash wrote:

bigboss wrote:

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Alec wrote:
I really didn't like Inception. And I feel we were promised more with this film than we got.

Indeed, I found Inception the most tedious film Nolan's been involved with.

Anyone that's studied psychology 101 would consider this one of the most laughable efforts at pop psychology ever commited to script. And for the record, it's "unconscious" rather than "subconscious..." 

I studied Psychology as part of my training. I thought Inception was based around Carl Gustav Jung's seven major archetypal characters. The entire film might actually just be Dom Cobb's dream and that all of the main characters in it were just different segments of himself that had to concoct an elaborate mission just so he could reach some level of catharsis within himself. When the mission was completed, he was finally able to confront his demons and he was granted the clarity to finally see his children's faces in the end because his guilt had finally been resolved amongst his archetypes.

Of course, there will be disagreements amongst people as to how they view the film. Even Carl Gustav Jung had his disagreements with Sigmund Freud.

Indeed, I've encountered several interpretations of Inception. I edit a peer reviewed journal and have worked through a few submissions on this film, including Jungian and Althusserian readings. And there's certainly an ambiguity to the ending. 

Nevertheless, the film didn't engage me and I couldn't identify with the protagonist in a way I found plausible. I also thought the concept of dream infiltration quite absurd. Of course, if the whole narrative's a dream that would perhaps negate that particular concern, but even then there's a suggestion that Cobb is trappped in a dream as a consequence of his profession (dream infiltration). Again, the filmmakers played with tenuous ideas in such self important ways as to render the film irritating. That's my view. Your view differs. It's perfectly fine to hold opposing views.

Sorry, it wasn't my intention to patronise. I posted in response to your suggestion that I might not have understood Inception

Trolling, as I understand it, would be contributing to a forum with no purpose beyond antogonism. That wasn't my intention. I thought it would be OK to express views on films directed by Nolan on a thread discussing his latest film. As I acknowledged above, I haven't seen The Dark Knight Rises, but have seen every other film listed in my post.     

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Oh my, it's all gone a bit Pete Tong...

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Oh..there's nothing like an opinion divided is there...... puzzled

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Oh my, it's all gone a bit Pete Tong...

Not that wrong, just a little tedious banter... silenced

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I went to see the film on friday loved it the emotions at the cinema was amazing,just goes to show how great a soundtrack can be to enhance the story telling,as always this film will not be for everyone with all the hype surrounding the film and film that is hyped up will always divide,like everything in life there will always be opinions.......Anyway im off to watch it again on wed to watch it again and will deffo be a blu-ray purchase. excellent!

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I found the soundtrack a tad irritating I think, but it may just have been the sheer volume.

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the explanation was meant for strapped for cash, as it appears that even he has studied Psychology.

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Yep, if a numbskull like myself can get to grips with Freudian, Lacanian, and Jungian concepts, there's hope for everyone... Wink

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Let's get one thing straight LHC, people come on this forum for discussion and opinions, not FACT versus FACT. It's meant to be in good spirits with people learning off each other and having a laugh in the process.It's just another example of you being the "Keyboard Hero" as usual and trying to start an argument with someone while you sit hidden behind your keyboard hundreds of miles away. When you talk about " I hate this place, so much pettiness, it's pathetic" it's because YOU make it like this.  You started the pettiness with you're comments. Never a week goes by on here when you're not having a go at someone, acting like their mother. Christmas day must be a great laugh in your house with you sitting hanging on every word anyone says to get an argument going.Give it a rest or be a man about it.

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Never a week goes by on here when you're not having a go at someone, acting like their mother.

With The_Lhc as 'mother', we're all going to need some of that psychology that was flying around the place earlier.

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Tartan Man wrote:
Never a week goes by on here when you're not having a go at someone, acting like their mother.

With The_Lhc as 'mother', we're all going to need some of that psychology that was flying around the place earlier.

 

I don't think you'll get any oedipus complexes. 

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I don't think you'll get any oedipus complexes.

You could be right.

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strapped for cash wrote:

bigboss wrote:

That's the thing about Psychology, isn't it......there's no black or white. Everything's grey! Smile

Hopefully, the thread will come back on track now. 

 

Oh, so now I'm responsible for derailing the thread.

You should have stated from the outset that only views commensurate with your own were allowed!  excellent!

Only Nolan-worship permitted hereafter, which means I'll have to duck out...

No no, I'm not accusing you at all. There have been few comments from many forum members which had deviated from topic. 

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