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Yes, Christopher Nolan had said at the start of making this film that it will be his last Batman film. That doesn't stop the studio from employing another director. 

http://screenrant.com/chris-nolan-dark-knight-rises-inception-ending-sequel-videogame-schrad-90115/

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Yes, Christopher Nolan had said at the start of making this film that it will be his last Batman film. That doesn't stop the studio from employing another director. 

http://screenrant.com/chris-nolan-dark-knight-rises-inception-ending-sequel-videogame-schrad-90115/

 

As i said, it's a pity. I think he did a really good job of all 3 films. They were much better than the cheesy versions of the 80's and 90's.

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Well, I'm still of the opinion that any film about a man that dresses up in a bat costume shouldn't be taken THAT seriously.

Besides, films directed by Nolan generally haven't been that good and we really shouldn't buy into auteurist hyperbole.

Memento: not bad, certainly the best film Nolan has directed to date.

Insomnia: virtually shot for shot remake of a Norwegian film (no genuis on display here).

The Prestige: silly film with a silly ending about cats.

Batman Begins: silly film about a man that dresses up as a bat that took itself far too seriously.

The Dark Knight: silly film about a man that dresses up as a bat that took itself even more seriously.

Inception: tedious film with a ridiculous excuse for a plot using poorly understood pop psychology as an excuse to string a series of action set pieces together.

The Dark Knight Rises: silly film about a man that dresses up as a bat that might take itself even more seriously than its predecessor.

Maybe Hans Zimmer's bombastic soundtracks have convinced people they're watching films without gaping plot holes and laughable/tedious narratives? Whenever he's involved with Nolan people seem to get really excited...

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mitch65 wrote:

I like the Mark Kermode review Smile

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p00wbkgd

Pretty much sums up my thoughts as well, in a much more eloquent manner.  Smile

Regardless of my view of the film, I hated this review. It was a slavering Nolan fan waffling about the Greatness of Nolan, not a review of the film. Sorry, the fact he can make a Batman film that is slow to show Batman has not been news siice 2005.

And he is utterly wrong about the ambiguity of the ending; Nolan went to great pains to make it very clear.

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Strapped, I agree to a point. I like one or two of his non Batman films, but not enough to shout about them particularly, and really didn't like Inception. And I feel we were promised more with this film than we got.

On th eother hand, he has improved enormously on the first series of Batman films. Mabe that leads folk to got a bit OTT with the praise (there will be a harsh backlash at soem point. I almost feel sorry for him there).

Let's see what he does with Bond, should he ever get it.

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And I struggle to understand Kermode worship as well.

Throw him some religious symbolism and he loses any sense of logic. I've lost count of the number of times I thought his judgement was seriously off.

I'm not trolling, honest (pick a popular filmmaker or other figure and invite fury).

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A small spoiler alert:

One important aspect of the film is from comic book #497 (July 1993)  Smile

I told someone there was no way they would actually film that happening as it does in Knightfall. Oh dear.

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I really didn't like Inception. And I feel we were promised more with this film than we got.

Indeed, I found Inception the most tedious film Nolan's been involved with.

Anyone that's studied psychology 101 would consider this one of the most laughable efforts at pop psychology ever commited to script. And for the record, it's "unconscious" rather than "subconscious..." 

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And I struggle to understand Kermode worship as well.

Throw him some religious symbolism and he loses any sense of logic. I've lost count of the number of times I thought his judgement was seriously off.

I'm not trolling, honest (pick a popular filmmaker or other figure and invite fury).

I find him entertaining to listen tio, to a point, but am usually decided on the films I plan to see before I hear his reviews. Nowadays, however, they are both full of themselves and would rather witter than review films or talk sensibly about plots, BBFC classifications or anything else that he actually speaks quite well about.

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Well, I'm still of the opinion that any film about a man that dresses up in a bat costume shouldn't be taken THAT seriously.

Besides, films directed by Nolan generally haven't been that good and we really shouldn't buy into auteurist hyperbole.

Memento: not bad, certainly the best film Nolan has directed to date.

Insomnia: virtually shot for shot remake of a Norwegian film (no genuis on display here).

The Prestige: silly film with a silly ending about cats.

Batman Begins: silly film about a man that dresses up as a bat that took itself far too seriously.

The Dark Knight: silly film about a man that dresses up as a bat that took itself even more seriously.

Inception: tedious film with a ridiculous excuse for a plot using poorly understood pop psychology as an excuse to string a series of action set pieces together.

The Dark Knight Rises: silly film about a man that dresses up as a bat that might take itself even more seriously than its predecessor.

Maybe Hans Zimmer's bombastic soundtracks have convinced people they're watching films without gaping plot holes and laughable/tedious narratives? Whenever he's involved with Nolan people seem to get really excited...

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Each on their own I guess. I personally loved The Dark Knight & Inception, amongst the best films I've seen in the last 4 years. I know many people didn't understand Inception. Both were psychological thrillers in their own right. I can see that you're being judgmental about a film you've not yet watched (which also makes me wonder how many of Nolan's films have you actually watched. puzzledSmile

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Well, I'm still of the opinion that any film about a man that dresses up in a bat costume shouldn't be taken THAT seriously.

Besides, films directed by Nolan generally haven't been that good and we really shouldn't buy into auteurist hyperbole.

Memento: not bad, certainly the best film Nolan has directed to date.

Insomnia: virtually shot for shot remake of a Norwegian film (no genuis on display here).

The Prestige: silly film with a silly ending about cats.

Batman Begins: silly film about a man that dresses up as a bat that took itself far too seriously.

The Dark Knight: silly film about a man that dresses up as a bat that took itself even more seriously.

Inception: tedious film with a ridiculous excuse for a plot using poorly understood pop psychology as an excuse to string a series of action set pieces together.

The Dark Knight Rises: silly film about a man that dresses up as a bat that might take itself even more seriously than its predecessor.

Maybe Hans Zimmer's bombastic soundtracks have convinced people they're watching films without gaping plot holes and laughable/tedious narratives? Whenever he's involved with Nolan people seem to get really excited...

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Each on their own I guess. I personally loved The Dark Knight & Inception, amongst the best films i've seen in the last 4 years. I know many people didn't understand Inception. Both were psychological thrillers in their own right. I can see that you're being judgmental about a film you've not yet watched.  Smile

You're right, I haven't seen The Dark Knight Rises (I'm currently sunning myself in the south of France). It could be a masterpiece so I'll reserve judgement.

However, I've seen every other film on the list. I did understand Inceptionexcellent! which was why I thought it a load of pseudo-psychoanalytic nonsense allowing for zero-gravity stuntwork.

Integrating effects sequences featuring characters doing the impossible was clearly the priority here, with the hanging-by-a-thread plot an afterthought at best.

I've nothing against spectacle, but if you want to engage me for a long time -- and Inception was certainly a long film -- there has to be something of interest in-between... 

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Also looks like you're in minority here, going by the critical reviews and several hundred thousand audience reviews:

The Prestige

Insomnia

Batman Begins

The Dark Knight

Inception

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Also looks like you're in minority here, going by the critical reviews and several hundred thousand audience reviews:

The Prestige

Insomnia

Batman Begins

The Dark Knight

Inception

Yeah, but they're all wrong... Smile

As mentioned above, I didn't anticipate that I'd be articulating the majority view. Besides, many critics are so closely tied to industry with their free Blu-ray screeners and studio kick-backs that they're happy to add to the hot air.

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Also looks like you're in minority here, going by the critical reviews and several hundred thousand audience reviews:

The Prestige

Insomnia

Batman Begins

The Dark Knight

Inception

The "you're the minority" argument always makes me giggle. It's meaningless I'm afraid. And it could be considered quite patronising (though I'm sure you didn't mean to be) to suggest that detractors of Inception didn't understand it.

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which makes me wonder how many of Nolan's films have you actually watched. puzzledSmile

As above, all but the most recent release...