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I would like to thank each and every brits...esp the UK gov. for all the support  to my countrymen (Philippines) GOD bless us all!

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Hope all the Iceman family are okay.

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Thanks PP.. Fortunately  my fam. are on the the northern part but  It's a tragedy they would'nt forget! Haian is is quite diff.

 

 

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Dreadful just watching the news footage. The shear scale of the disaster is bloody aweful. Thoughts are with those families effected.

On slightly more cheery note, any update on your speakers?

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plastic penguin wrote:

Dreadful just watching the news footage. The shear scale of the disaster is bloody aweful. Thoughts are with those families effected.

Yep, hard to get your head round the scale of it. One to keep in mind next time some nitwit from ukip starts banging on about our overseas aid budget being a 'waste of money'...

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mr malarky wrote:

nitwit from ukip 

 

Tautology surely? In all seriousness, my heart goes out to the poor people of the Philippines, the reports yesterday were very sad. I am glad that the government is matching the DEC donations and will be making my contribution today.

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Why the hell are ALL governments not throwing aid like confetti. They can afford it. These disasters are not unique. Just heard now that first uk aid flight leaves today???? Its not easy I guess but I cant help thinking the response should be much bigger and much quicker. Our thoughts and prayers are with them.

News this morning - 'aid is just starting to trickle in'. 7 days now. Disgusting.

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RobinKidderminster wrote:

Why the hell are ALL governments not throwing aid like confetti. They can afford it.

With the exception of some corrupt regimes, governments are not typically the ones holding vast surpluses of wealth; unless you count personal fortunes, though a large proportion of rich politicians would sooner squirrel their money away.

Maybe the likes of Goldman Sachs and JPMorgan Chase could chip in. A notable percentage of aid will be donated by less affluent individuals and charitable organisations. Wealthy celebrities will do their bit by appearing on television, imploring the little people to donate their money.   

* You can decide for yourself whether this applies to certain Western administrations.

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Change.org have a petition to get unclaimed Euro lottery winnings sent to the Philippines. Here's the link:

http://www.change.org/en-GB/petitions/national-lottery-tnluk-donate-12mi...

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RobinKidderminster wrote:

 first uk aid flight leaves today???? Its not easy I guess but I cant help thinking the response should be much bigger and much quicker.

 

You have to load the planes and make sure they have somewhere to land before they take off.

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Relief efforts can be quicker to start - see the book Macrowikinomics for an example how nowadays it is possible for an individual to create an online wiki, and for individuals in the disaster area to save details on the wiki (using their phones/tablets etc), of the villages damaged, spread of water borne illnesses, need for food/tents etc, so that it is possible to identify what aid is immediately needed. This was also used as a tool to help several charities combine their efforts.

 

Traditional charities and aid agencies usually move slower. They need to get individuals to the disaster area, then set up their local HQ, then get individuals to survey the scale of the damage - this may not be easy if there is flooding, and roads/rail are unusable, and only then can they start to compile a list of what aid supplies are needed. The work is not helped if the aid agencies do not speak to each other, and duplicate each others efforts.

Then as BA says, there has to be an airfield available, for the aircraft to land. If not, then you have to rely on transporting the aid by boat, which is slower.

And you then have to distribute the aid, in areas where the transport infrastructure, has been destroyed.

It is easy to criticise delay, but some thought and planning has to be performed, before the aid flights start.

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Benedict_Arnold wrote:

RobinKidderminster wrote:

 first uk aid flight leaves today???? Its not easy I guess but I cant help thinking the response should be much bigger and much quicker.

 

You have to load the planes and make sure they have somewhere to land before they take off.

yep, I know it sounds counter-intuitive but too much stuff sent too quickly, before the actual needs have been established and the logistics are in place on the ground to handle it, can cause as many problems as it solves. There are past cases of aid stockpiling at airports becuase there were no trucks to distribute it, or aid going to waste because the wrong type of tents were sent, or food was sent when what was needed were water purification kits etc. 

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