No pleasing the missus and little'un.
Not too many blokes would be as considerate as yourself PP.
The lesson I've learnt over the years is don't go firing-off condemnations unless you know the full story. You often end up having to eat your words and you look a t*t. I stick by my original opinion that it's not wrong for a person to want a break away from their regular routine for a spot of character-building and experience-stretching. Now that I know even more facts, I feel even more strongly in favour of it in your case, PP.
Not too many blokes would be as considerate as yourself PP.
Thanx but I don't see it as "considerate". It's just normal way of life. The major caveat is isolation, hence why I come on here so often. 
Cheers - it's a family pilgrimage. My dad wanted to return and never did, the OH was over keen at first but understands.
It'll give her and titch a weekend round her mums/grans.
I assume by that you mean that sadly your dad has passed on. I'm sure he will be with you in spirit.
Well you asked for opinions and I have just given you one based on the information provided. My second post is no different to my first in that it said if you leave time for your family its not a problem, it seems from an outsiders point of view that this is not the case and its an unlevel playing field.
Don't really see how you got to your conclusion. Your original point was sound, in that leaving time for your wife and kids is important, but then you jump to the conclusion that because there was no family holiday, that means no time has been spent with the wife and kids. By that logic, a man could spend all hours of his life either working or down the pub but, as long as he takes a week out to take his family on holiday, that's job done on the "quality time" front.
I think spending time on a daily / weekly basis with the family is key, not some week away once or twice a year. As long as you're doing this, there's no way anyone should feel any guilt about going away for one weekend without them. If it were me, it probably wouldn't even be a question - simply a "by the way, this is really important to me and I'm going away this weekend". But then we all have different circumstances / expectations etc. and I know my other half would have no issues with that at all (just as I wouldn't when she wanted to do the same).
Don't really see how you got to your conclusion. Your original point was sound, in that leaving time for your wife and kids is important, but then you jump to the conclusion that because there was no family holiday, that means no time has been spent with the wife and kids. By that logic, a man could spend all hours of his life either working or down the pub but, as long as he takes a week out to take his family on holiday, that's job done on the "quality time" front.
. I simply (or stupidly) translated this to PP's situation.
Next week, whether permitting, we'll have the afternoon and evening at the south coast.
It's a fine juggling act of work and keeping the family occupied.
I'm inclined to partly agree with eggontoast.
I appreciate what you do for your wife, and you're obviously to be commended on it, but isn't your wife's situation all the more reason that both she and the little one should get a holiday too?
"Quality time"? Going to the coast or museum for a few hours with them is just the normal thing to do with your family. Well, not sure how much a little girl would enjoy the IWM, but still
My girlfriend sacrified a lot a few years back when I had health problems, but she didn't expect Brownie points for it. At the moment it's the other way round for her career. I just see that as things you do for your partner.
If I hadn't had a holiday with her, I wouldn't go away with anyone else. It's not so much that I think you should do everything together, it's that I wouldn't dream of going on a break if she wasn't getting one. Even more so if I had a child that I felt was missing out too.
This is ludicrous! I can't believe people are having a go at pp for going away for one weekend without his family to do something clearly very important to him with his brother. Even if he weren't as dedicated as he clearly is to his family, this would still be a complete non-issue in my book.
My advice - you have absolutely no reason to feel guilty about this trip pp - go for it.
This is ludicrous! I can't believe people are having a go at pp for going away for one weekend without his family to do something clearly very important to him with his brother. Even if he weren't as dedicated as he clearly is to his family, this would still be a complete non-issue in my book.
My advice - you have absolutely no reason to feel guilty about this trip pp - go for it.
People have different opinions - Ludicrous! Or, er, not?
You miss my point. It's not that he's going away for one weekend with his brother. It's that he's planning two trips away whilst his missus and daughter seemingly get none. And they maybe haven't had a holiday for a while, as I'm sure I remember PP saying he didn't manage to go away last year, as I think he was planning on coming over here.
If my girlfriend hadn't had a holiday, I wouldn't be taking one myself. If I had a daughter, there's no way I'd go. That's just my opinion. I'm not saying everyone else should feel the same.
seems a lot of people are just putting there own circumstances into the situation which is nothing like PP's , quality time apart is good and it can help improve the quality time together. Go and enjoy PP and come back with fully recharged batteries for an energy RUSH .
As usual kudos to the prof for his common sense.
If my girlfriend hadn't had a holiday, I wouldn't be taking one myself. If I had a daughter, there's no way I'd go. That's just my opinion. I'm not saying everyone else should feel the same.
No of course you're not. You're just saying that those who even consider doing such a thing should obviously feel terribly guilty about it, no matter what their personal circumstances are.
Personally, I think all those acting as carers are unsung heros; and PP, if you need this to recharge your batteries....I say, good luck to you.
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If my girlfriend hadn't had a holiday, I wouldn't be taking one myself. If I had a daughter, there's no way I'd go. That's just my opinion. I'm not saying everyone else should feel the same.
No of course you're not. You're just saying that those who even consider doing such a thing should obviously feel terribly guilty about it, no matter what their personal circumstances are.
You're right of course, but if people start self indulgent threads on public forums, they should expect to receive opinions that may offend.
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No - I run my own small business from home. Given that care for my disabled OH, I don't drink much, no clubs. Think that a little bit of ME time is in order. Unlike your comments.
The OH went on her skiing holiday a few years ago (4 actually), and didn't want us to go because it was her little holiday - several times before we met - why I stayed at home. That's reasonable.
My lifestyle literally revolves around her and little'uns needs. I've even turned down high paying jobs because it meant spending periods away from home. The house has been adapted which is great for her: work tops, toilet, bathroom...
To answer Chebby's question, everytime I get the chance to do somethng I love there's a nagging guilt. Even though it's reasonable, and with full consent from Mrs. P, still "should I?" rumbles thru the old grey matter.
Most blokes go down the boozer and meet friends. I don't do that.
Everything I own is geared around the family, including hi-fi.
Leema Pulse MKII-S; Naim CD5i MKII; Denon TU-260L MKII; MA RS6 speakers; Pro-ject Xpression 1; loads of different cables...
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