"Leave the gun, take the cannoli."
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I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion.
I've watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser Gate.
All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain.
Time to die.
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I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion.
I've watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser Gate.
All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain.
Time to die.
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Good one, amazed it's taken 7 pages before it appeared. 
Re Lock Stock etc.:
Some people tend to over-analyse a boiled egg...
(and I don't think that's a movie quote, but there is one a bit like it....)
Let's face it, very very few movies are historically or whatever measure you like accurate, but they are (with the possible exception of a few I could mention) entertaining and I'm pretty certain the Beatles didn't really live in a yellow submarine and...
'Into the mud,Scum Queen!'
Re Lock Stock etc.:
Some people tend to over-analyse a boiled egg...
(and I don't think that's a movie quote, but there is one a bit like it....)
Let's face it, very very few movies are historically or whatever measure you like accurate, but they are (with the possible exception of a few I could mention) entertaining and I'm pretty certain the Beatles didn't really live in a yellow submarine and...
To be clear, my objection to Lock Stock is ideological and has nothing to do with any notion of historical accuracy. Of course no film is historically accurate, though a work of complete fiction shouldn't be evaluated on this basis.
As an entertainment, I didn't find it in the least bit entertaining, either. Rather, I spent the running time cringing at the filmmakers' middle class mockney "cool." I thought the script was littered with badly sketched, two dimensional character archetypes and hackneyed narrative devices. In other words, I didn't think there was anything approaching an original idea or iota of creative talent on display.
It seems the filmmakers were striving for a Brit equivalent of Tarantino dialogue that for me didn't work on any level. Rather than thinking "these are a right bunch of geezers, if only I could be like that," I thought every single character was an utter (insert your own expletive). Moreover, the film's oppositions (streetwise cockney geezers vs. guileless toff students) were gross (and grossly unamusing) misrepresentations. It's as if the only way the protagonists could appear credible was to situate them against a backdrop of characters that were even greater (insert your own expletive again).
Sorry, I'm not having a go at you personally; it's just that if I was compiling a list of films I passionately hate, this would be pretty near the top. I'm not being a snob about this. There are plenty of trite and tacky films I really enjoy. This unfortunately isn't one of them.
To quote the film, "If the milk's sour, I ain't the kind of EDITED to drink it."
Oh, and then there's Vinny Jones...
You're certainly entitled to disagree.
Re Lock Stock etc.:
Some people tend to over-analyse a boiled egg...
(and I don't think that's a movie quote, but there is one a bit like it....)
Let's face it, very very few movies are historically or whatever measure you like accurate, but they are (with the possible exception of a few I could mention) entertaining and I'm pretty certain the Beatles didn't really live in a yellow submarine and...
To be clear, my objection to Lock Stock is ideological and has nothing to do with any notion of historical accuracy. Of course no film is historically accurate, though a work of complete fiction shouldn't be evaluated on this basis.
As an entertainment, I didn't find it in the least bit entertaining, either. Rather, I spent the running time cringing at the filmmakers' middle class mockney "cool." I thought the script was littered with badly sketched, two dimensional character archetypes and hackneyed narrative devices. In other words, I didn't think there was anything approaching an original idea or iota of creative talent on display.
It seems the filmmakers were striving for a Brit equivalent of Tarantino dialogue that for me didn't work on any level. Rather than thinking "these are a right bunch of geezers, if only I could be like that," I thought every single character was an utter (insert your own expletive). Moreover, the film's oppositions (streetwise cockney geezers vs. guileless toff students) were gross (and grossly unamusing) misrepresentations. It's as if the only way the protagonists could appear credible was to situate them against a backdrop of characters that were even greater (insert your own expletive again).
Sorry, I'm not having a go at you personally; it's just that if I was compiling a list of films I passionately hate, this would be pretty near the top. I'm not being a snob about this. There are plenty of trite and tacky films I really enjoy. This unfortunately isn't one of them.
To quote the film, "If the milk's sour, I ain't the kind of EDITED to drink it."
Oh, and then there's Vinny Jones...
You're certainly entitled to disagree.
right.......
Are you a Guardian reader per chance?
Are you a Guardian reader per chance?
On occasion, though I'm honestly not an acolyte of any individual rag. It's possible to be an opinionated so and so without swearing allegiance to a particular newspaper's worldview.
I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion.
I've watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser Gate.
All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain.
Time to die.
The world ain't all sunshine and rainbows. It is a very mean and nasty place It will beat you to your knees and keep you there permanently if you let it. You, me or nobody is going to hit as hard as life. But it ain't about how hard you hit, it is about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward, how much can you take and keep moving forward. That's how winning is done!
Re Lock Stock etc.:
Some people tend to over-analyse a boiled egg...
(and I don't think that's a movie quote, but there is one a bit like it....)
Let's face it, very very few movies are historically or whatever measure you like accurate, but they are (with the possible exception of a few I could mention) entertaining and I'm pretty certain the Beatles didn't really live in a yellow submarine and...
To be clear, my objection to Lock Stock is ideological and has nothing to do with any notion of historical accuracy. Of course no film is historically accurate, though a work of complete fiction shouldn't be evaluated on this basis.
As an entertainment, I didn't find it in the least bit entertaining, either. Rather, I spent the running time cringing at the filmmakers' middle class mockney "cool." I thought the script was littered with badly sketched, two dimensional character archetypes and hackneyed narrative devices. In other words, I didn't think there was anything approaching an original idea or iota of creative talent on display.
It seems the filmmakers were striving for a Brit equivalent of Tarantino dialogue that for me didn't work on any level. Rather than thinking "these are a right bunch of geezers, if only I could be like that," I thought every single character was an utter (insert your own expletive). Moreover, the film's oppositions (streetwise cockney geezers vs. guileless toff students) were gross (and grossly unamusing) misrepresentations. It's as if the only way the protagonists could appear credible was to situate them against a backdrop of characters that were even greater (insert your own expletive again).
Sorry, I'm not having a go at you personally; it's just that if I was compiling a list of films I passionately hate, this would be pretty near the top. I'm not being a snob about this. There are plenty of trite and tacky films I really enjoy. This unfortunately isn't one of them.
To quote the film, "If the milk's sour, I ain't the kind of EDITED to drink it."
Oh, and then there's Vinny Jones...
You're certainly entitled to disagree.
On the whole, I agree with you on this Strapped, though you put your view far more intelligently than I could. I don't hate it quite as much as you, I just hate that people love it so much, it really isn't very good at all.
I also hate Vinnie Jones, but he is in one of my all time favourite films, Survive Style 5+, a stupendous Japanese movie.
On the whole, I agree with you on this Strapped, though you put your view far more intelligently than I could. I don't hate it quite as much as you, I just hate that people love it so much, it really isn't very good at all.
I also hate Vinnie Jones, but he is in one of my all time favourite films, Survive Style 5+, a stupendous Japanese movie.
To be fair, I couldn't even spell Vinnie's name correctly.
I agree that there's little more galling than something you can't stand being widely cited as a work of genius. That probably goes some way toward explaining my response.
I've never seen Survive Style 5+, though I'm intrigued after reading a little about it...
Survive Style 5+ is definitely in my all time top ten, and I can't recommend it enough. I'd like to compare it to something else, but I don't think there's another film like it.
Wish it was on blu ray though.
It's a shame some genuinely awful films get Blu-ray releases, while many films you love have dodgy DVD transfers at best. I'm seriously considering buying a multi-zone BDP, so I can finally lay my hands on several Criterion titles I've been hankering after for ages.
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