What makes sir Alex the best for me,is how competitive the leagues are now in Europe and demesticly.
Years ago there was only ever a couple of teams in Europe that were any good now some countries have a couple of teams at a time that are of such a high standed and have a chance of winning tthing.
also the pressure involved in today's game is so much higher.
Not sure why that's anything to do with SAF rather than the huge money available for success (or even entering) the champions league.
I'd put it the other way round. What makes him 'the best' is how he's adapted across eras, from hard drinking and comparatively little money to multi-millionaire players, agents, nutritionists and so on. How well would Shankly, Paisley or Clough have adapted? Later successful managers like Dalglish and Souness couldn't, so I'd suggest not very well.
Anyway, this thread is much less controversial than the Thatcher one, disappointing
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What we COULD laugh at are the many, many Man Utd fans not attending when it is THEIR team not winning trophies any more.... then we will ALL see as to what 'great fans' they are eh ?
I recon more than Half are just glory-hunters and will seek out the Man City season tickets when they realise utopia under Sir Alex has vanished ... lol
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Not sure how much we're disagreeing! If you're saying that competition is more competitive now *because* of SAF then I disagree. I'm also not sure I'd describe the PL as more competitive than the top league previously. The standard is certainly higher but it's much more of a closed shop than it used to be. The couple of teams who happened to be peaking when the PL was introduced and the sky money came in and english teams went back into Europe are still there, with the only way to break in being to have a billionaire owner.
You're probably right about Europe, although again there's probably 6-8 teams who'll make the QFs of the CL pretty consistently. SAF has done consistently well, although I'm sure his one regret will be that he ought to have won it once or twice more.
I'm getting totally fed-up with all negative comments I've heard on the radio, TV...sure Moyes hasn't any real experience in Europe. But if they were to flip the debate around, what top manager would've bettered Moyes record at Everton, given the limited budget?
That question will only be answered once a replacement for Moyes (assuming, of course, Moyes is unveiled as Man U manager) is employed.
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so often terms opt for the big continental name and the British guys don't get the top jobs.
moyes has done miracles with Everton spending less than all others.
Official........so who for Everton....? martinez looks like the bookies favourite.....
Football is a funny old game as I have heard Jimmy Greaves say on many an occasion.
Today's game is so much faster.... really ?
Try watching some footage from the 80's onward, faster... nope but the pace isn't too dissimiler and the tackling was allowed during the 80's as well.
Today's players COULDN'T and wouldn't have survived in the Shanks era tbh.... today's players are waaaaay too powder-puff... big girl's blouses.
Old time players... the defenders would have had the girly Gareth Bale, 'the diver'... wanting subbed within the first twenty mins.
Suarez .... hahahahahaha.... he'd have bitten NO ONE... they'd have put him in hospital !
Today's game is a kid-on looking form of football mostly played by big 'jessies' who get paid FAR TOO MUCH money for what IS ... a simple game.
Faster.... maybe a little... but then again, tackling is now almost outlawed these days...so many-a-jessie run around knowing most are NOT allowed to tackle them It is time that men again played ... 'the beautiful game'.
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Tackling is still allowed today, but what isn't allowed is blatent fouling which you seem to glorify and hanker after. Thank god we don't have the same neanderthal tactics of old. I hate diving, play acting etc. as much as anyone, but I am of an age that remembers when it was perfectly acceptable to go out and hack anything and anyone that moved as "all part of the game", and the game is better off without it.
Laudrup and Swansea have silverware already.
Moyes is a failure and will be cashing in big time in 12 months.
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Loved Dave Whelan's quote on that today...
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Rooney hands in another transfer.
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The change of manager does not appear to have changed his mind then. I think therefore it is time for him to move on. I was just listening to Talk Sport in the kitchen a short while ago and they thought that Chelsea was the most likely destination, if MUFC do decide to sell him. However, whether they would sell him to one of our leading rivals is debatable.
Anyway, lets not talk about Rooney today. My wife was crying before when SAF made his speech. Good luck, good health, and thanks for the last 26 years.
Yep, I enjoyed watching that too. It was quite a speech from Fergie.
Meanwhile it looks like Mancini has been sacked...
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