I don't believe you can guarantee to get the "lie angle" right without physically measuring it, as there are too many variables that can effect it, aside from height. eg. I'm 2 deg upright, even though I'm only of average height.
To measure it, they stick a bit of "markable" tape with a scale on it, on the bottom of the club. When you strike the ball off a plastic plinth, it leaves a mark on the tape. If the lie angle is correct, this mark should be in the centre. eg. If its at the toe, the angle needs to be more upright (and vica versa).
They should have test clubs at every lie angle, and the procedure carries on until you get the right lie angle for your swing and height. If this isn't corrected, either the toe or heel of the club can catch in the ground as you swing, causing the shots to go off line.
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I know you're right, I may well pop down the American Golf later and see what they can do for me.
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It's the only sensible way....those guys are usually very good. Also remember, there is no way to determin swing speed, except to measure it......and that determins shaft flex.
Also, make sure you try the difference between forged clubs vs cast clubs, as they feel different.....the world of golf makes hifi look easy!
I know, and I swore to myself I'd never get sucked in by all the little variations, but it's starting to happen. " />
The trouble with getting a full fit on the clubs is that when you advance, pick up a few lessons etc. the clubs your holding are set up to your orinal swing and may not help in the long run. I would go for a fit but grip and length only and keep the club face neutral, this will help as you progress.
A full club fit really is for an advanced player (single figures) who is set in a swing but want to get the perfect set up, for a beginner you need room for maneuver.
LOL, find the cluubs you like, thats the main thing. If your of average height a club of the shelf will probably be fine, if you have big hands get grips that are comfy, easy.
Have a wonder round American Golf is the best thing.
There is certainly merit in what you say, but I have slightly different logic.
A good golf shop, is like a good Hifi dealer and will look after you. Generally, if you buy from them, the fitting is free, even for a less expensive beginner set. If it's a respected brand, you should get a good trade in at a later stage.
Golf is hard enough to learn, but if you are fighting wrongly fitted clubs as well, it just adds to the difficulty.
Just my opinion, of course, having been through it.
There is certainly merit in what you say, but I have slightly different logic. A good golf shop, is like a good Hifi dealer and will look after you. Generally, if you buy from them, the fitting is free, even for a less expensive beginner set. If it's a respected brand, you should get a good trade in at a later stage. Golf is hard enough to learn, but if you are fighting wrongly fitted clubs as well, it just adds to the difficulty. Just my opinion, of course, having been through it.
I can actually agree with both points here, I got a set of irons with graphite shafts when I was 18 and at the time they were fine for me but as I got stronger and started hitting the ball harder the shaft flex caused the head to lag behind and open up, causing a huge slice. I carried on with that for over 8 years before I changed to a steel shafted set (the head flew off my three iron cos the shaft snapped just above the hosel! Flew about 100 yards down the fairway itself...) and all of a sudden my shots straightened up so much I now just hit a gentle fade, I was astonished, all that time, all that frustration thinking I had no idea how to hit the ball (all those lost balls!) and it turns out 70% of it was just the wrong damn shafts...
I now get fully fitted every time I buy a new club.
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........and it turns out 70% of it was just the wrong damn shafts...
The right shaft is absolutely vital....and is the "engine" of the club.
Tried Google, couldn't find any combination of search terms that resulted in any golfer's name, it just gives you golf courses around Chester... Forgot about Howell though.
If you try "CH3 golf", the first link is 'The official site of Charles Howell III'...
At the risk of sounding pedantic, thats what they call him CHUCKY THREE STICKS. I am not aware of any reference to CH3
... and the page on his site is titled 'ABOUT CH3', and there's a few uses of the term
After reading lots of reviews and watching some reviews on You Tube, I've finally ordered some Wilson Staff Di11 irons 4 - SW.
I didn't go to American Golf, as their price for these clubs was much higher than I managed to get them for, so no fitting.
I did however use several different online fitting charts, taking in to account my height, size of my hands, and distance from wrist to floor. So even if they're not absolutely perfect, they'll be so much better than what I am using.
Hope they work out for you, so report back on how you find them.
For a minute, when I saw you had posted, I thought you were reporting another hole in one!!
Hope they work out for you, so report back on how you find them. For a minute, when I saw you had posted, I thought you were reporting another hole in one!!
If I had, I don't think I'd have the nerve to say.
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