Formula 1 - 2012 season
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Yet another double-post 
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Just heard on the radio that Vettel's win is to be investigated for an alleged illegal overtaking. Surely the decision couldn't be overturned?
Could be...http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/20531638
The FIA will probably remain silent until after Friday then say it's too late to do anything.
And while we're in 'Salem mode' - I'm curious, why do some think the Vettel/Senna collision should've yielded a penalty, and for whom? 
And while we're in 'Salem mode' - I'm curious, why do some think the Vettel/Senna collision should've yielded a penalty, and for whom?
Every incident this year has been investigated by the stewards so why not this one, and Vettel should have got a drive through. As I've said previously he would have still ended up the champion, who else could have had a incident like that and still got to the end of the race. Hamilton only got tapped and his steering broke.My money's already on Vettel for next season unfortunately. Unless Newey leaves.
And while we're in 'Salem mode' - I'm curious, why do some think the Vettel/Senna collision should've yielded a penalty, and for whom?
Every incident this year has been investigated by the stewards so why not this one, and Vettel should have got a drive through...
Why? It wasn't as if Senna B was fully, or even halfway, alongside Vettel in the braking zone and the latter cynically turned-in early - a la Prost on Senna A at Suzuka '89, or Schumacher on Villeneuve at Jerez '97 etc.
Have a look at this BBC footage, pause it at 01:17 and note the position of Senna and Vettel at the 50-metre board - ie, the braking zone - and thereafter as they turn-in to the corner.
IMVHO, unfortunately it was a case of two drivers aiming for the same patch of asphalt from different points of the track - Senna taking a tight line, Vettel using a wide line, with neither in the other's line-of-sight as they turned in.
Thus, surely it was merely a 'racing incident'?
Just sayin'
And while we're in 'Salem mode' - I'm curious, why do some think the Vettel/Senna collision should've yielded a penalty, and for whom?
Every incident this year has been investigated by the stewards so why not this one, and Vettel should have got a drive through...
Why? It wasn't as if Senna B was fully, or even halfway, alongside Vettel in the braking zone and the latter cynically turned-in early - a la Prost on Senna A at Suzuka '89, or Schumacher on Villeneuve at Jerez '97 etc.
Have a look at this BBC footage, pause it at 01:17 and note the position of Senna and Vettel at the 50-metre board - ie, the braking zone - and thereafter as they turn-in to the corner.
IMVHO, unfortunately it was a case of two drivers aiming for the same patch of asphalt from different points of the track - Senna taking a tight line, Vettel using a wide line, with neither in the other's line-of-sight as they turned in.
Thus, surely it was merely a 'racing incident'?
Just sayin'
Even if it was just "a racing incident" why was it not investigated like every other incident this season. Were the stewards on Red Bull and something. If they had investigated and called it "a racing incident" then there is nothing to argue about.I wonder if it would have been investigated if Vettel had had to retire. 
At least neither of those two won the individual race of champions... not that I care... still muttering darkly in the distance!!! 
Indeed.
And Grosjean 2nd in the Nations Cup and winning the individual event rather proves a point: yes, he's very quick, but only when no-one else is on the track 
Grosjean's had his seat confirmed for 2013; Lotus line-up remains unchanged....
Well I don't watch F1 because it is generally boring and MotoGP[motorcycles] is much better.
In the past yes, but MotoGP this season has been dire. I have a friend who's a total bike-head and even he says he just couldn't watch most of the races this year. Charlie Cox (BBC commentator) should get knighted for his ability to talk when not much is happening !
Rossi agrees : http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/motogp/20039647